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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.3.0 'panel ghosts'
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:30:46
Message-Id: pan.2009.08.29.17.39.21@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.3.0 'panel ghosts' by Frank Peters
1 Frank Peters posted on Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:52:47 -0400 as excerpted:
2
3 > The names of all running processes are shown at the right. Once you
4 > have found the process in question (firefox or evolution), make a note
5 > of the number at the left. This is the process id, or PID. Then issue
6 > the command:
7 >
8 > kill -s 9 PID
9 >
10 > This will terminate those processes.
11 >
12 > Sometimes, a process can be associated with several PID's. Make sure to
13 > kill, using the above command, all of the PID's that are involved.
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15 Note that there's also the killall command, which according to the
16 manpage, kills "processes by name". Of course, it'll kill /all/ the
17 processes by that name, so may not be what you want if you have multiple
18 separate firefox processes running at the same time, for instance, but
19 it's very useful, none-the-less, since where it /can/ be used, it saves
20 the step of looking up the pid.
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22 Also, with both kill and killall, the "s " shouldn't be needed. kill -9
23 PID or killall -9 name should work, tho both will also take the -s form,
24 too. FWIW, they'll also take the named signal. -15/-TERM is the default
25 if no signal is specified. That tries to kill an application gracefully,
26 giving it time to save its work or whatever. As such, it may or may not
27 work. -9/-KILL is the "kill and I really mean it" signal, NOT allowing
28 the application a graceful exit, simply directing the kernel to kill it
29 outright.
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31 There are, however, instances where even -KILL/-9 won't get rid of the
32 process. Zombies are one (for them, killing the parent process works,
33 where possible). "Uninterruptable sleep" is another, normally shown with
34 a "D" in ps, top, and similar status outputs. "Uninterruptable sleep" is
35 triggered for some types of I/O (input/output, reading/writing to the
36 disk, for instance). Where this can become a problem is for example when
37 you yanked the USB stick without unmounting (aka safely removing) it, and
38 the application doesn't know it's gone -- it can get stuck in
39 uninterruptable sleep in such a case, and rebooting is about the only fix
40 for that. Another example would be the problems people had with certain
41 external drives awhile back, where the drive was set for aggressive power-
42 saving, but didn't conform to standards (the drivers solved it for MS
43 users), so the kernel didn't know the drive had gone to sleep and
44 couldn't properly wake it up. The app would therefore try to write
45 something to it, and would hang indefinitely as a result. As mentioned,
46 rebooting can be the only way to get rid of processes hung in
47 "uninterruptable sleep" mode.
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49 The above is for Linux. The BSDs, Solaris, etc, may be slightly
50 different.
51
52 --
53 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
54 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
55 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman

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