Gentoo Archives: gentoo-amd64

From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: grub fs support
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:44:16
Message-Id: pan.2009.01.27.17.44.05@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: grub fs support by Bob Sanders
1 Bob Sanders <rsanders@×××.com> posted 20090127160758.GA44973@×××.com,
2 excerpted below, on Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:07:58 -0800:
3
4 > Actually while this is the problem, it's exaggerated by the fact that
5 > the typical install (non-Gentoo) doesn't use a seperate boot partition.
6 > In the normal, commerical setting, /boot resides as part of /. Thus
7 > /boot is always mounted. And as you point out with a system crash it's
8 > possible that the journal will need to be replayed before a system boot
9 > can happen.
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11 Actually, I had meant to mention that but forgot. Thanks for the catch!
12 =:^) You're quite right, without a dedicated /boot partition it'd be
13 on /, which of course tends to be mounted while the system is
14 operational. =:^)
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16 Possibly countering that would be the fact that (for servers anyway,
17 perhaps somewhat less so for desktops/laptops) it's probably more common
18 for non-Gentoo systems to have their / mounted r/o under normal
19 operation, since few distributions use the "rolling updates" idea that's
20 part of the appeal of Gentoo for many of us, but that makes keeping /
21 mounted r/o rather a hassle.
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23 And a filesystem mounted r/o at the time of a crash shouldn't have any
24 journal playback to worry about.
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26 --
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