Gentoo Archives: gentoo-amd64

From: Lie Ryan <lie.1296@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: intel processors x gentoo
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 21:04:03
Message-Id: AANLkTimcAE2AtGYHfzrEcKZmggiZ8RhkBiAbSUOX80x=@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-amd64] Re: intel processors x gentoo by Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
1 (Sorry for the top post, this brain dead email software in my mobile phone
2 do not even allow me to remove the quoted message)
3
4 I was under the assunpthat I7 was a 32bit cpu, and I was unaw
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6 On 28 Oct 2010 15:03, "Duncan" <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> wrote:
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8 Lie Ryan posted on Thu, 28 Oct 2010 06:20:45 +1100 as excerpted:
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11 > On 09/29/10 03:03, Zhu Sha Zang wrote:
12 >> I have some machines running gentoo and every machine...
13 Why not?
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15 That statement implies that you don't either don't understand what
16 keywords are all about, or you don't understand what that specific keyword
17 means.
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19 If the statement is taken in the one context, if he's running the 64-bit
20 x86 instruction set, on Gentoo, the keyword for it is amd64, regardless of
21 who (AMD, Intel, Via...) makes the chip it's running on. For one thing,
22 Gentoo's support for that instruction set originated before anyone else
23 had picked it up, and AMD called it AMD64.[1]
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25 That's why this list is the gentoo/amd64 list as well, because that's what
26 Gentoo calls the arch/instruction-set, regardless of who creates the
27 hardware.
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29 Unless of course you're arguing that he likely wants ~amd64 instead,
30 which /is/ something that could be argued (I run ~amd64 on my 64-bit
31 machine and ~x86 on my 32-bit-only Atom netbook...). But that's going to
32 require a /lot/ more than a simple "I doubt you would want that" in
33 reference to the stable version, to back up /that/ argument, to the point
34 I can't see anyone logically making the claim you made in that context,
35 either.
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38 [1] For another, AMD originated it, and that's what they call it, so it
39 can be argued that is it's "proper" name, even if generically, x86_64 also
40 often used (as it is for the kernel, but due to the _ it's harder to
41 type), or x64 (which is confusing for a few reasons, not the least of
42 which is that 64 is less than 86, but it's the newer and arguably "better"
43 instruction set, but I do think MS uses it), or by Intel as em64t or some
44 such.
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46 --
47 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
48 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
49 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman