Gentoo Archives: gentoo-amd64

From: Barry Schwartz <chemoelectric@×××××××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Boycott Systemd
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:58:51
Message-Id: 20140922175846.GA22399@crud
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Boycott Systemd by Lie Ryan
1 Lie Ryan <lie.1296@×××××.com> skribis:
2 > Diversity isn't about feeding people who feels everything not-invented
3 > here is godawful. When you have a clearly defined problem and you can
4 > create a solution that satisfies that niche better than any other
5 > solutions, that is diversity.
6
7 ‘Diversity’ here is deviation from established Unix/POSIX philosophy
8 in system design. Years of effort to simplify programming are being
9 thrown away on grounds that resemble common arguments in favor of the
10 ‘tight integration’ that is Microsoft Windows. I mean, seriously, many
11 of the pro-systemd arguments are like those I have heard for using
12 Windows: that applications ‘just work’, because they were written for
13 a dominant system.
14
15 But I view this like a programmer, not like a Windows user; I want my
16 software to be portable because it is written portably (in a POSIX
17 sense), not because it is written for a universally available
18 particular POSIX variant. What I see is something like a return to the
19 days when you had to write different code for variants of USG, BSD,
20 and whatnot, except that now, unlike then, one of the variants is
21 overwhelmingly dominant.
22
23 What I really fear, though, is what if one day the kernel team is a
24 different entity, more like other entities in the Linux world?

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Boycott Systemd "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Boycott Systemd Frank Peters <frank.peters@×××××××.net>