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Mark Knecht posted on Mon, 18 Jul 2016 09:26:56 -0700 as excerpted: |
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> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> wrote: |
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>> [N]o worries about *DM at all. I just login at the text prompt |
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>> regardless of whether I'm headed for X or not, and startx just as if it |
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>> was any other app I wanted to run at the text prompt. =:^) |
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> I just knew when I saw you had replied that you'd say that! ;-) |
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=:^) |
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> Here at home we share machines. My wife, much less my 86 year old |
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> mother, wouldn't be at all comfortable with a solution being that |
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> technical, and generally speaking, I like to know that graphics are |
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> working when a machine boots vs she logs in, types startx and something |
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> fails - which happened here after the Plasma 5 upgrade. My main machine |
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> has run 3 monitors for years with no xorg.conf file but after the |
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> upgrade it didn't work anymore and X wouldn't start at all. |
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I understand the other, not so technical, people thing. Were I closer to |
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my folks so it would be practical for me to handle their computer stuff, |
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I imagine I'd do similar with them... |
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As for X not starting at all, that's actually how I ended up with a text- |
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only login a decade and a half ago. I had just switched from MS and |
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still had an nVidia card that I had to run the proprietary drivers on as |
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before I switched I had thought to check for Linux drivers when I bought |
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the card, but I didn't know I had to check for /freedomware/ Linux |
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drivers. Which was a problem as I wanted to build and run the latest |
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kernels and was thus updating kernels frequently. Of course that meant I |
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had to rebuild the nVidia kernel module rather frequently as well, with |
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the result if I didn't being a failed X and *DM login GUI. |
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Of course that meant I had to do a text login to do the nVidia kernel |
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module build anyway, and that tended to "just work", so once I discovered |
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startx, I started just logging in at the text console and using startx if |
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I wanted X/kde. |
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The final straw was when a mandrake cooker (their supposedly faster- |
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updating beta program... that I ultimately left for gentoo when it got a |
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kde feature release plus a bugfix release behind kde upstream) update |
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broke whatever *DM GUI login I was using (whatever the mandrake default |
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was). Simple enough fix for me: just quit using it. =:^) |
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> Having a DM is kind of nice when managing other people's experiences but |
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> this sddm choice seems oriented toward single user machine and less |
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> toward general usage cases. I suppose so many people use laptops these |
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> days it makes sense but not for me. |
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> Good to hear from you. Has the networking thing worked out OK for you? |
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Could be better, could be worse. The wifi-N adapter works reasonably |
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well in the hotel, tho I do have to reboot it every so often as it |
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apparently stops passing the VoIP phone packets after a week or so so and |
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the VoIP adapter starts flashing and I can't get dialtone. |
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But I sure miss the cable internet, and being able to get youtube @ 1080p |
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without a system update interfering with the streaming. Much of the time |
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on the hotel's wifi I can only get 320p, and the other day when I tried |
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to sync (via git) after nearly a month (been busy house shopping, but |
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have one signed up and thru initial inspections now), I had a /terrible/ |
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time completing a full git pull on the gentoo repo, as it kept dying part |
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way thru. |
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There's two ways to look at it: |
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1) It's "complimentary" wifi provided by the hotel, at least I'm not |
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having to pay the $5/day extra they charge for priority wifi. |
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2) I (or in my case the city for me) am(/is) /already/ paying $100/day |
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for the room. In this day and age, not having decent internet in lodging |
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costing that sort of money is entirely ridiculous. |
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I know one thing for sure. If I were paying for it myself, I'd either be |
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paying way less for the suite, or it WOULD have good internet, even if it |
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meant a cheap motel and spending the difference on internet. |
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OTOH, the hotel, Homewood Suites by Hilton, does participate in HHonors, |
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the Hilton frequent-stay club, and they get a free internet upgrade. If |
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I were paying for it myself, I imagine I'd be going that route. Given |
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that based on the paperwork I signed, the city is apparently paying |
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standard rate for me anyway, no discounts of their own, I can't imagine |
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I'd be paying /too/ much more as an HHonors member, and possibly less, |
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while getting the internet upgrade in the process. |
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So yeah, mixed-bag, but I'm surviving. I'm about 50 days into the 90-day |
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booking, and the house (actually condominium) sale is supposed to close |
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in a month (Aug 19), giving me a week or so after to get at least basic |
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furniture in place and move in before the hotel booking runs out, so I'm |
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more than half thru it, now. |
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Other than internet, I've no complaints. Nice enough hotel, and while |
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the city did displace me from my owned trailer, rented space, I'm getting |
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a MUCH better place I'll actually own the deed to now, that as a rental |
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would go for more than twice the money I was paying where I was, so |
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really, nothing to complain about at all... but for the so-so internet in |
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the hotel they put me up in for the 90 days... |
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But hey, I was afraid I wouldn't have a stable enough connection to even |
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do youtube and the VoIP phone thing at all, and at least /that/ hasn't |
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been the case. =:^) |
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-- |
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Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. |
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"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- |
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and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman |