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From: Mark Knecht <markknecht@×××××.com>
To: Gentoo AMD64 <gentoo-amd64@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Please get me straight about sysvinit vs. systemd, udev vs eudev vs mdev, virtuals and other things...
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 18:38:39
Message-Id: CAK2H+eerxt_Npz9Mh633jxfYjOO-YoitQUPuNDUmhCm8_2uVcQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Please get me straight about sysvinit vs. systemd, udev vs eudev vs mdev, virtuals and other things... by "Canek Peláez Valdés"
1 On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@×××××.com> wrote:
2 <SNIP>
3 >
4 > Come to the dark side. We have cookies.
5 >
6 > Regards.
7 > --
8 > Canek Peláez Valdés
9 > Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
10 > Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
11 >
12
13 I like cookies. Cookies sounds good. You're not a bad man with candy are you?
14
15 OK, I updated my SSD backup install this weekend so it's totally
16 up-to-date. I'm curious enough and have good backups so I might be
17 willing to take a bite and see if it's sweet or poison. ;-)
18
19 QUESTION: I always use the plain Gentoo KDE profile as I run KDE.
20 Looks like I possibly would select the KDE/systemd profile, do the
21 work and then go through a learning process about how to get the right
22 services turned on?
23
24 If I understand this all then systemd, in it's current state, is going
25 to require removing udev as a stand-along package, will remove
26 sysvinit as systemd provides /sbin/init, and will also replace OpenRC
27 with it's own code for starting and stopping services? It's a big
28 change but it's one of the reasons why I built the backup install on
29 the SSD. None of this really touches my spinning rust install I use
30 daily.
31
32 Also, WRT to an earlier comment about udev being 'merged recently' I
33 found Kay Sievers note on this and that was somewhere in 2012. I agree
34 with Canek here that being that it's 18 month later and I didn't know
35 this and it's had no real effect on my machines it seems an
36 overreaction to get too worried about that. Yeah, in the future they
37 could possibly make it harder to use but eudev will know that's coming
38 and fork again I'd think, assuming anyone cares at that point.
39
40 Cheers,
41 Mark
42
43 - Mark

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