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Antoine Martin posted on Tue, 23 Sep 2014 10:51:49 +0700 as excerpted: |
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> Personally, I am quite surprised to see that very few have mentioned the |
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> one thing that makes me cringe in all the systemd discussions, namely |
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> that anyone who disagrees with the systemd crowd is either misinformed, |
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> stupid or holding back progress. Though this thread is a lot less acrid |
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> than some (I am not posting to create further tension, but rather to |
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> explain where I think some of this tension is coming from). |
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> Many have legitimate gripes with systemd, but the dismissive attitude of |
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> many systemd proponents is more of a social problem, and a worrying one. |
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> It is almost impossible to have a technical discussion on the subject. |
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It has been implied as some of the other points (the LKML discussion |
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where Linus got mad at ksievers, for isntance) are there as a result of |
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this, but you're correct, nobody had been naming it directly. |
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And that was and remains my biggest concern as well, even tho I'm running |
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systemd now. Well, that and the "gray goo" problem. But I decided I'd |
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try it anyway, knowing I could always switch inits by just setting init= |
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appropriately if I decided it wasn't something I was ready to use just |
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yet, and once I did enough research to actually try it properly and had |
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actually done so, I found that despite my misgivings in these two areas, |
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it was enough faster and easier to work with than openrc, that despite |
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having to figuratively "hold my nose" to do it, I wanted to keep using |
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systemd. |
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I'm still "holding my nose", but from the systemd side of town, now. |
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Time will reveal how it all turns out, I guess, but meanwhile, I can |
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always boot the backup to get back to sanity, if some new version of |
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systemd either won't boot or does something I consider insane and don't |
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want on my system, and from that backup, if necessary I can reinstall |
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openrc. |
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Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. |
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"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- |
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and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman |