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On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> wrote: |
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> Frank Peters posted on Wed, 24 Sep 2014 12:58:22 -0400 as excerpted: |
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> > This method may seem strange and even regressive and stubborn to many |
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> > Linux users. All I can say in response is that one has to be a little |
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> > bit fanatical to even use Linux, |
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> ... let alone Gentoo,... |
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> > and I am probably more than just a little bit fanatical. |
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> =:^) |
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> While few gentooers take it to the level you have, I expect most |
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> understand the concept. After all, they /are/ gentooers. =:^) |
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> FWIW, I was doing something similar with my own suspend/hibernate script |
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> for awhile. I stopped once I switched to systemd as its related |
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> functionality works well enough, and does what I want and need without |
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> the whole policykit, etc, circus, which I do *NOT* want or need. |
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> There's a certain "direct drive", "close to the metal" confidence you get |
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> from mastering the concepts well enough to do it yourself like that. Any |
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> gentooer should appreciate the concept to some extent, but those that |
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> have actually gone beyond gentoo and bare-scripted at that level I think |
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> appreciate even more both the concept, and how powerful and even |
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> addicting it can be. For those who have done it, there's a definite loss |
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> in doing it any other way. For some people at some point, that loss is |
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> worth it to avoid the additional maintenance and responsibility that |
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> comes with it, while for others there is and can be no acceptable |
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> replacement for that direct control. |
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Oh, come now. Gentoo is for the folks who want it all simple and easy, |
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packaged pretty and tied with a bow. |
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Real Linux techies only use Linux from Scratch |
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http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ |
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;) |
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> FWIW, as I said I've accepted that loss in letting systemd handle the |
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> suspend and hibernate details for me now, but OTOH, while I can |
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> appreciate those who for instance leave gentoo for arch, assuming gentoo |
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> is still viable at the time, I have a hard time envisioning me running |
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> anything else even 20-30 years from now when chances are I'll be in a |
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> retirement home. I /am/ nearing 50 after all, and 30 years from now |
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> would put me at 77, at which point there is definitely a fair chance I'll |
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> be in a retirement home, if I'm even around any longer... And yes, I |
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> think there's a fair chance I'll still be running gentoo, even then. =:^) |
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> IOW, I think it's fair to say that most/all gentooers are at least a bit |
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> fanatical in that way, enough to appreciate and respect your position. |
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> Certainly I do. =:^) |
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> Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. |
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> "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- |
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> and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman |
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