[gentoo-amd64] Re: Boycott Systemd

[Duncan]

Frank Peters posted on Wed, 24 Sep 2014 12:58:22 -0400 as excerpted:

> This method may seem strange and even regressive and stubborn to many
> Linux users.  All I can say in response is that one has to be a little
> bit fanatical to even use Linux,

... let alone Gentoo,...

> and I am probably more than just a little bit fanatical.

=:^)

While few gentooers take it to the level you have, I expect most 
understand the concept.  After all, they /are/ gentooers. =:^)

FWIW, I was doing something similar with my own suspend/hibernate script 
for awhile.  I stopped once I switched to systemd as its related 
functionality works well enough, and does what I want and need without 
the whole policykit, etc, circus, which I do *NOT* want or need.

There's a certain "direct drive", "close to the metal" confidence you get 
from mastering the concepts well enough to do it yourself like that.  Any 
gentooer should appreciate the concept to some extent, but those that 
have actually gone beyond gentoo and bare-scripted at that level I think 
appreciate even more both the concept, and how powerful and even 
addicting it can be.  For those who have done it, there's a definite loss 
in doing it any other way.  For some people at some point, that loss is 
worth it to avoid the additional maintenance and responsibility that 
comes with it, while for others there is and can be no acceptable 
replacement for that direct control.

FWIW, as I said I've accepted that loss in letting systemd handle the 
suspend and hibernate details for me now, but OTOH, while I can 
appreciate those who for instance leave gentoo for arch, assuming gentoo 
is still viable at the time, I have a hard time envisioning me running 
anything else even 20-30 years from now when chances are I'll be in a 
retirement home.  I /am/ nearing 50 after all, and 30 years from now 
would put me at 77, at which point there is definitely a fair chance I'll 
be in a retirement home, if I'm even around any longer...  And yes, I 
think there's a fair chance I'll still be running gentoo, even then. =:^)

IOW, I think it's fair to say that most/all gentooers are at least a bit 
fanatical in that way, enough to appreciate and respect your position.  
Certainly I do. =:^)

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