Gentoo Archives: gentoo-desktop

From: Tiago Marques <tiagomnm@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-desktop@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-desktop] multilib, slot conflicts, and the sun going down
Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2015 08:15:42
Message-Id: CAGKt2Sm0gBGBzPMiwJDi=zm3zev6mtCpiZEGzbNLT-4kEc6UbQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-desktop] multilib, slot conflicts, and the sun going down by Brent Busby
1 Quite the hassle. I would suggest maybe you try Trinity Desktop as a
2 replacement. I haven't tried it in a while but it generally was ok at a
3 functional KDE3 desktop that is compatible with modern system-related
4 libraries. They usually ported a larger number of old KDE 3 apps on
5 request, though I'm not sure how it stands right now.
6
7 For lovers of the old code base, there was a guy who added patches for
8 udiks and upower to the old code and fixed GCC compile bugs, though I have
9 stopped following new developments a good while back. My understanding is
10 that if you mostly only wanted old stuff, it was your best option and it
11 was being built for OpenSUSE distros for people that wanted to try it out
12 without going all the way to TDE packages.
13
14 Tiago
15
16 On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 1:20 AM, Brent Busby <brent@×××××××××.org> wrote:
17
18 > Tiago Marques <tiagomnm@×××××.com> writes:
19 >
20 > > Besides that, were you actually able to use the desktop? A good while
21 > > back I was having issues with newer GCCs, HAL, consolekit and other
22 > > parts of the desktop's subsystem.
23 > >
24 > > My experience is ABI_X86 has unfortunately introduced conflicts
25 > > everywhere, not just on this overlay.
26 >
27 > Up until now, I've been able to find ways around everything. There was
28 > always some patch to get around most (but not all) GCC issues. I got
29 > around HAL by not using it, and using the KDE 4 version of programs like
30 > K3B that cared about HAL. I got around consolekit by just making my
31 > launch of KDE include 'exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --sh-syntax
32 > --exit-with-session startkde', which registers the session. (Later I
33 > just globally got rid of consolekit, since it's pretty annoying even
34 > outside of KDE, as is policykit, and all those kits.)
35 >
36 > But I've got no solution for this. It doesn't appear to be all
37 > multilib's fault though. It looks like all packages that used to be
38 > under kde-base/ in main Portage are now under kde-apps/, and this
39 > expectation has carried across into the overlay somehow. Since the
40 > overlay is not updated for this, it's causing most of KDE 3 to appear to
41 > be missing to Portage...or at least that's how it looks so far.
42 >
43 > I may just give it up. I mostly wanted KDE 3 to continue for two
44 > things, now no longer necessary for me:
45 >
46 > - I had it configured to look like CDE. Yes I know lots of people think
47 > CDE is ugly, but I like it, and KDE 4 is incapable of getting that
48 > look quite to the degree KDE 3 could. It doesn't matter so much now
49 > that real OpenGroup CDE has been open-sourced and is being vigorously
50 > supported by community people who care about it. You can now make
51 > your Linux workstation look like HP-UX til the end of time if you
52 > want.
53 >
54 > - I liked the HTML editor Quanta, which is a QT3 only program. Lately
55 > though, I've been becoming more and more of an Emacs person. (It's
56 > got me. GNU Emacs happens to people when they least expect it.) As
57 > part of that growing disease, I've become attached to Emacs' various
58 > modes and assistants for HTML, CSS, Javascript, etc., so I don't
59 > really need Quanta so much anymore either.
60 >
61 > Oh well...farewell KDE 3.
62 >
63 > --
64 > + Brent A. Busby + "We've all heard that a million monkeys
65 > + Sr. UNIX Systems Admin + banging on a million typewriters will
66 > + University of Chicago + eventually reproduce the entire works of
67 > + James Franck Institute + Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet,
68 > + Materials Research Ctr + we know this is not true." -Robert Wilensky
69 >
70 >