Re: [gentoo-desktop] multilib, slot conflicts, and the sun going down

[Brent Busby]

Tiago Marques <tiagomnm@×××××.com> writes:

> Besides that, were you actually able to use the desktop? A good while
> back I was having issues with newer GCCs, HAL, consolekit and other
> parts of the desktop's subsystem.
>
> My experience is ABI_X86 has unfortunately introduced conflicts
> everywhere, not just on this overlay.

Up until now, I've been able to find ways around everything.  There was
always some patch to get around most (but not all) GCC issues.  I got
around HAL by not using it, and using the KDE 4 version of programs like
K3B that cared about HAL.  I got around consolekit by just making my
launch of KDE include 'exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --sh-syntax
--exit-with-session startkde', which registers the session.  (Later I
just globally got rid of consolekit, since it's pretty annoying even
outside of KDE, as is policykit, and all those kits.)

But I've got no solution for this.  It doesn't appear to be all
multilib's fault though.  It looks like all packages that used to be
under kde-base/ in main Portage are now under kde-apps/, and this
expectation has carried across into the overlay somehow.  Since the
overlay is not updated for this, it's causing most of KDE 3 to appear to
be missing to Portage...or at least that's how it looks so far.

I may just give it up.  I mostly wanted KDE 3 to continue for two
things, now no longer necessary for me:

- I had it configured to look like CDE.  Yes I know lots of people think
  CDE is ugly, but I like it, and KDE 4 is incapable of getting that
  look quite to the degree KDE 3 could.  It doesn't matter so much now
  that real OpenGroup CDE has been open-sourced and is being vigorously
  supported by community people who care about it.  You can now make
  your Linux workstation look like HP-UX til the end of time if you
  want.

- I liked the HTML editor Quanta, which is a QT3 only program.  Lately
  though, I've been becoming more and more of an Emacs person.  (It's
  got me.  GNU Emacs happens to people when they least expect it.)  As
  part of that growing disease, I've become attached to Emacs' various
  modes and assistants for HTML, CSS, Javascript, etc., so I don't
  really need Quanta so much anymore either.

Oh well...farewell KDE 3.

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