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From: Alex Schuster <wonko@×××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-desktop@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-desktop] Re: KDE Sunset Amarok
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 21:03:31
Message-Id: 20120802204416.20a132bc@weird.wonkology.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-desktop] Re: KDE Sunset Amarok by Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
1 Duncan writes:
2
3 > Alex Schuster posted on Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:19:23 +0200 as excerpted:
4 >
5 > > I still use Konqueror... not really sure why. I like it, yes, it looks
6 > > more KDEish than Firefox, and it opens in a new window instead as a
7 > > new tab in an existing Firefox window, which probably could be changed
8 > > anyway... but a problem are the bookmarks, moving multiple top-level
9 > > bookmarks to a folder makes keditbookmarks crash, sometimes losing
10 > > some of those bookmarks, and sometimes it will additionally delete
11 > > the very first folder. Happened at least three times for me, and
12 > > guess what, the first bookmark folder is named 'Accounts' and is the
13 > > most important one for me. Then I will have to get an old version of
14 > > bookmarks.xml from a backup and merge it with the current file.
15 >
16 > Interesting. I still use kde/konqueror bookmarks as I'm able to open
17 > them from a dedicated bookmarks menu plasmoid,
18
19 Right, that's also a reason why I'm still using Konqueror.
20
21 > but I've /never/ (to my
22 > recollection) had that issue. I moved to firefox for other reasons,
23 > and gripe a bit to myself when I have to create a new bookmark in kde
24 > semi- manually since it's not kde-integrated like konqueror, but I've
25 > never had problems with kde's bookmarks.
26
27 In early KDE4 keditbookmarks was totally unusable, I think it was not
28 even possible to move bookmarks around. This has been fixed, but it still
29 crashes often, and the problem I mentioned is quite reproducible. It does
30 not happen every time, but it happens a lot. And that it additionally
31 deletes the very first folder completely is especially annoying, because
32 I did not realize this until much later, when needed the bookmark.
33 Here's a report: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=255611
34
35 And I think this is a big problem with KDE4. Such bugs exist for years,
36 and noone seems to care much. Could you imagine Firefox's bookmark editor
37 to be buggy for two years, or Internet Explorer? No, this sort of
38 problems exists in KDE4 only I think.
39
40 Sorry for the ranting, I know this is free software and so on, but these
41 are the things that make it hard for me to recommend KDE4 to others.
42 People just expect simple things like bookmark editors to work. But
43 instead they crash, and they delete data when doing so. I'm, still a big
44 fan of KDE4, and would not like to change, but I do not recommend it to
45 others. And of course my mom's Laptup runs Gnome, not KDE.
46
47 Wonko

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