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From: NP-Hardass <NP-Hardass@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 19:36:33
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project by Matthew Marchese
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On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 12:01:48 -0700
Matthew Marchese <maffblaster@g.o> wrote:

> Hello all, > > I have recently pressed the reboot button on the ol' Installer > project. I've been able to talk to quite a few developers one-on-one > via IRC concerning my plans. Most seem to be in support of Gentoo > having a "official" installer (the biggest concern is appears to be > how things will be implemented and the amount of features involved). > This e-mail is to fulfill GLEP 39's request for comments (RFC), > concerns, requests, etc. Since I'm a little new to the project I'm > coming with a bit of ignorance; I know the previous Installer project > fostered mixed feelings. > > If you'd like to review before replying you can see the Wiki page and > find the source on GitHub: > > To summarize I'm writing it in pure Python 3. It first will be able > to create full backups (stage 4s) and recoveries. After that is > finished I plan to move on to installations. There will potentially > be a web interface UI for it. Others are free to create other > front-ends; to me a web UI makes the most sense and would probably > require the least deps. > > I'd like to hear it all so please speak your mind. Looking forward to > hearing from you. > > maffblaster > > >
Who is your target audience? New users? Experienced users? Not so much a comment about your installer, but installers in general, I feel the handbook is critically important to helping new users to understand Gentoo. Whether the handbook would remain a resource that users would look at if they had an installer remains to be seen. The project page states: "Greatly aiding the "fresh install process". stager will not remove the need for reading through the Handbooks, but rather work along side the handbook in order to help users install Gentoo." Can you elaborate on this? I have trouble envisioning an automated installer process that requires working along side the handbook. I know that you mentioned a web interface. I assume that you there are plans for a simpler, local interface like ncurses or cli, or text in a terminal? Is it meant to be interactive? I like the idea of having an automated installer, so I wish you the best of luck with the project. I'm sure you'll encounter tons of people with tons of opinions on what it should and shouldn't be, so just do your best to maintain a clear, well-defined vision and stick to it. - -- NP-Hardass -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJVqqqhAAoJEBzZQR2yrxj7sAMP/3SJK47oukM/sNMiq7X4Wwv9 h7iZka4bDjUBH95FupbkMTAY25Vyyt+SqXlUEBXTohT3LNPelPvBd9ZRJyOTld8k ewwv+CQfxhG+NTPE4ca0nGV2W0W7ADv1j4T5sauyjfjbHd3c5sPk2q5nad/Wlve7 WEIJyNi0Vyo/wiC531BIDXWcKVrYoC+K1q/Fy94cbv96pxzfnAR47m56k9qfm+P3 B3oBEFR87Yt9GQxTiWEpR3JtrXMLLhMQf3uel0P4muNuKZh0FNV+ySOAdmzeNr3a 1RatQQeJ1D9ogYjZlEfz02JX5SO/7JIZK8VG/pdqzMaLPCcgxl3PQyUvXnbxayzf mmY1H7MHF7wSKJiQ4hv4RdjYt1ni3fB1nlW6mHI77ytOKpjFqBlv56QTvuPdsL1M uDg/30sZcrPpoLdlpbsmpZPBhTmL+rRa2HjmTO6vJdIAI6pH3THu4LuCW31syau1 LGLVgxqVkX2bQM+twRD+WscBiZHRyzT2Px0+o55QS7gBNes8IhpWduMIF6RXa85S wuxK4Pz/TRXT8xPsYRtTJasYeCCNjNp57Hb6r1v0Q85CehzbYbznPOlOVHTdCm58 p0aRxFsTZFOcYz/bdoNaQKrAG6AF7253LoIftRtZVMbu8iYFJqO+4sezC6Xd+wmW lg82A0tpzPagqGJ2c0m3 =8+ux -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----


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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project Patrice Clement <monsieurp@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project hasufell <hasufell@g.o>