Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

[Ciaran McCreesh]

On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:43:20 +0100 Stuart Herbert <stuart@g.o>
wrote:
| On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 21:57 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| > Yeah, foser's on holiday. Good time to push the GLEP through.
| 
| How typical of you to try and drag this discussion down into something
| personal :(  If you keep feeling the need to do this, do everyone a
| favour and keep your mouth shut instead.  It detracts from otherwise
| insightful and useful comments.

What, weren't you around for all the previous attempts at this proposal?

| > The only reason certain arch teams are considered a bottleneck is
| > because they do real testing. As opposed to x86 or ppc, where
| > packages which won't even unpack get marked stable...
| 
| You can't help yourself, can you?  You have to have a pop at
| someone :(

It's the truth, it's a problem and it needs fixing.

| It's impossible for an arch team to keep pace with the rate of change
| in the tree and do adequate testing too.  No arch team is currently
| big enough.  Arch teams are always going to lag behind what package
| maintainers do.  It's a simple numbers game.
|
| There are only two arch teams with 20 or more members (amd64 and ppc),
| as of 22:30 BST today.  They have to deal with the output of approx
| 155 herds, plus countless changes that don't go through herds in the
| first place.  The numbers speak for themselves.  Arch teams are
| bottlenecks. Until the numbers change, that won't change.

You want numbers?

A total of 31 ebuilds seems outdated on sparc
A total of 72 ebuilds seems outdated on x86

A total of 3634 packages are keyworded on sparc
A total of 7793 packages are keyworded on x86

Real numbers. Not guesswork based upon misconceptions.

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