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From: John Davis <zhen@g.o>
To: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] x86 2004.2 Profile
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 01:30:39
Message-Id: 1089595833.23475.3.camel@woot.uberdavis.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] x86 2004.2 Profile by Chris Gianelloni
1 On Sat, 2004-07-10 at 14:23, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
2 > On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 19:16, Spider wrote:
3 > > begin quote
4 > > On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 15:00:18 -0500
5 > > Andrew Gaffney <agaffney@×××××××××××.com> wrote:
6 > >
7 > > > I don't understand why the switch from xfree to xorg-x11 is a big
8 > > > deal. They are currently source and binary compatible. Almost
9 > > > everything (if not everything) works the same with xorg-x11 as it did
10 > > > with xfree.
11 > >
12 > >
13 > >
14 > > Except that if you do something like this :
15 > > emerge sync; emerge -u world
16 > > cp -a /etc/X11/XF86Config /etc/ssh /etc/pass* /etc/grou* /etc/shad*
17 > > /etc/conf.d /etc/pcmcia /etc/rc.conf /var/lib/portage/world /backup
18 > >
19 > > reformat, unpack the -same- stage3, and then restore them...
20 > >
21 > > oops. suddenly things don't work because even when they are binary
22 > > compatible, they aren't config compatible, and users should be able to
23 > > expect that if they install the same applications (face it, the world
24 > > file isn't likely to contain the xfree version, most likely it contains
25 > > mozilla, Gnome, KDE, xfce or other such thing that brought X in as a
26 > > dependency ) They will get them. We currently break reliability often,
27 > > which is a pretty bad thing. :-/
28 > >
29 > > only by actually doing things like this new profile, can we in fact
30 > > increase reliability.
31 >
32 > So what is the consensus? I am either going to make the new profile or
33 > make xorg-x11 the default in the current profile as soon as spyderous
34 > marks it stable, so we can start building the stages for 2004.2.
35
36 If you truly think it is the best thing to do, and have developer
37 consensus, then by all means, do it. The opinion of the people who
38 directly maintain the package has more weight than mine, as they know
39 wtf is going on as well as the reasoning behind a new profile.
40
41 Cheers,
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43 John Davis
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