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Chris Reffett posted on Fri, 21 Jun 2013 19:24:39 -0400 as excerpted: |
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> The KDE team has added Plasma Active to the KDE overlay, under the |
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> (provisional) category name kde-active. Plasma Active is based on KDE |
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> and is designed for mobile devices. We are not able to test it at |
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> present as none of the KDE team has a mobile device running Gentoo, so |
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> we would be very appreciative if community members would help us by |
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> testing and reporting bugs to us. To install it, add the overlay (layman |
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> -a kde) and emerge all of the packages in the kde-active category. |
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This seems like the best opportunity I'm likely to get to ask (as a kde |
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user)... |
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Just what /is/ plasma-active as opposed to kde? It it (essentially) a |
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different desktop (umm... "mobiletop"?) entirely, built by the same |
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people but with a different (mobile) target? If kde and plasma-active |
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are both installed, does a fair portion of the config carry over (do they |
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use the same user config dirs?) or not? If I run a kde app on the plasma- |
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active "mobiletop", does it still use it's kde settings, or does it use |
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separate plasma-active settings now? |
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What about non-kde apps, gtk, etc? With kde, there's a kde settings |
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color option to use the same colors on non-kde apps. Does that apply to |
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plasma-active as well? |
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FWIW I have a netbook (generation 1.5 acer aspire one aoa150, one of the |
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first with a 100-gig plus standard SATA hard drive, but still old enough |
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it avoided the infamous intel netbook graphics driver issues as it still |
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used the standard driver) that I'm running gentoo on, currently with kde |
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4.8, IIRC. But I don't normally use the "net" part of netbook and I've |
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never (successfully) configured the wireless. It plugs in to ethernet at |
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home, but primarily it's for mobile unnetworked "stand-alone" use. |
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Would this be an appropriate plasma-active platform, or does plasma- |
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active make too many assumptions about being basically constantly net- |
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connected to be viable on my "unnetbook"? |
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So far I've stayed away from plasma-active, mostly because I assumed it |
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wanted constant connection, but also because I wasn't sure about the |
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above. But if it works reasonably without a net connection and runs |
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normal apps reasonably, it could be worth at least testing, giving you |
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some testing and feedback as well as me some hands-on with it. |
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Oh, and it doesn't require semantic-desktop or the like, I hope. Because |
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I need that like I need another hole in my head. See below. |
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Semantic-desktop: Just so you guys know, as I said, I need semantic- |
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desktop about as much as I need another hole in my head, so I'm **VERY** |
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not happy with the 4.11 changes. I spent quite a bit of time patching |
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the 4.10.80 ebuilds to kill the semantic-desktop once again, and |
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developed a user-epatch-like framework to automatically apply the patches |
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to updates as they come in, but either due to that or due to some other |
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bug in this first 4.11 beta, activities are broken (a kde restart always |
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starts with a new activity, and the existing customized activities aren't |
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listed so I must start from scratch every time... but the panel config |
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carries over just fine... shrug). |
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Even if it worked, however, I'm unsure of the maintainability apart from |
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upstream gentoo/kde over time. But as I said, I need semantic-desktop |
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like I need another hole in my head, and with all the changes in kde |
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during the kde4 timeframe, I'm far less dependent on kde now than I was |
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for the kde3 -> kde4 upgrade, so I may simply drop my kde desktop |
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entirely, and switch to something else. |
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I guess I'll find out over time, but it would make things a *LOT* simpler |
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if you'd simply reconsider forcing semantic-desktop. Because much like |
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my going to all the effort to jump to Linux and drop MS, after which |
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there was no going back, there's no going back to semantic-desktop for |
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me. The additional hole in the head is a reasonable analogy in that |
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regard and I'll rather be dropping kde entirely if it comes to that. But |
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I'd rather not have to do that and have to look for something else, if |
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it's avoidable. (razor-qt? enlightenment? Something else?) |
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Not that I expect it to change any decisions, but now you know the pain |
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it's causing here, at least. And I'd certainly be delighted if you /do/ |
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reconsider. Otherwise... well, maybe there'll be a kde4-sunset overlay |
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and I'll have others to help too, or maybe I'll simply find something |
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else eventually... |
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Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. |
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"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- |
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and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman |