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On Thu, 9 Aug 2012 16:45:28 -0400 |
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Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> |
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> wrote: |
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> > On Thu, 9 Aug 2012 22:27:37 +0200 |
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> > Peter Stuge <peter@×××××.se> wrote: |
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> > |
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> >> Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> [snip] |
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> >> > Systemd isn't a like-for-like replacement for traditional inits. |
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> >> > It aims to be much more, so this is a bit of an apples-to-oranges |
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> >> > comparison. |
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> >> Yes, it is much more, which is a very nice thing on the systems |
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> >> it supports. I believe systemd is not usuable at all outside Linux |
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> >> and will not likely ever be, so for prefix there will anyway always |
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> >> be systemd alternatives in Gentoo! And on those systems the service |
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> >> files should never be installed. |
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> > Considering that systemd unit files are sometimes shipped with |
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> > upstream packages, and often they are practically equivalent to |
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> > openrc init scripts, I'd rather see openrc supporting that file |
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> > format as an extension and using it instead of duplicating the same |
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> > thing in init.d scripts. |
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> > And yes, that means that people masking service files shoot |
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> > themselves in the foot. |
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> > Also, if I had more time (or support), I'd probably start working |
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> > on a systemd-compatible init system with a more portable design. |
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> I would find this very interesting. I doubt I could find time for much |
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> active contribution, unfortunately, but I'd help where I could. |
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Well, the sad thing is that I don't really have much expertise in this |
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area. I like the philosophy of designing many smalls things which just |
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work well together, so I would probably start that by reinventing some |
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helper tools. |
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It would be most helpful to get some aid from OpenRC team. I believe |
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that some common-use tools written for the project could be used |
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and tested in OpenRC first. And that way, slowly a new init system |
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could enter the world. |
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Sadly, it would be strictly bound to file formats and names set by |
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systemd team. |
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Best regards, |
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Michał Górny |
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