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On 03/06/14 16:53, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@g.o> wrote: |
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>> To prevent OpenRC users from installing this version because it's |
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>> an old UPower with no pm-utils support, with no hibernate/suspend support, |
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>> to ensure desktops don't end up with greyed out Hibernate/Suspend |
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>> buttons |
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> So, I get why you did it, but my concern is that when you tell portage |
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> that non-systemd users shouldn't use this package, portage helpfully |
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> solves that problem by turning all the non-systemd users into systemd |
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> users, instead of switching them to the alternative that works without |
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> systemd. |
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Portage doesn't do anything on it's own, surely it needs an admin to accept |
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or reject the changes |
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It seems we are seeing the severity of something like this diffently, to me, |
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this belongs to normal Portage functionality, I see something like this |
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from other packages constantly, I don't understand why this package has |
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suddently been highlighted like this |
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It just seems to me people are up in the arms again re: seeing word |
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"systemd", |
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when ironically all of this hassle was *for* OpenRC users, |
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to ensure continuity for them in sys-power/upower-pm-utils where 0.9 git |
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branch will continue to live |
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If I hadn't stepped up and blocked the 0.99.0 keywording when it was |
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originally |
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about to happen, and then figured a migration path, and then stepped up with |
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help from pacho2 and tomwij, and migrated the tree like this, we'd have |
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everyone |
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on 0.99.0 and no hibernate/suspend for anyone else except systemd users |
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So, after all the effort we've put in and prepared the tree with OpenRC |
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users |
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specifically in mind, if people have to take one or two manual emerge |
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commands |
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themselfs, I'm totally fine with that, that's what Gentoo is all about, |
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choices, |
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and people who complain about it, really seem like ungrateful over |
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anything else, |
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and I'm disappointed. I keep expecting more from our users, the |
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handholding has |
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lately gone overboard |
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I hope that didn't come out wrong, and it certainly wasn't a reply |
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directly aimed |
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at you, it was to the thread in general |
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(I'm still with my original plan, when 0.99.0 goes stable, there will be |
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multiple bulletin |
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points to document, news item will be issued) |
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- Samuli |
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