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On 2018-11-06 11:21 a.m., Alexis Ballier wrote: |
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> On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 11:09:17 -0500 |
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> Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote: |
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>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:57 AM Alexis Ballier <aballier@g.o> |
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>> wrote: |
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>>> On Tue, 06 Nov 2018 17:08:22 +0200 |
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>>> Mart Raudsepp <leio@g.o> wrote: |
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>>>> It is not GStreamer fault that ffmpeg breaks API and ABI without |
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>>>> parallel installability, much less so the distro maintainers of |
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>>>> it. If you/upstream don't make it parallel installable, then this |
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>>>> is what you get. |
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>>> |
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>>> Are you, seriously, suggesting this is the solution to all problems |
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>>> here ? |
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>>> |
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>> It isn't the only solution, but it is one sane upgrade path. You |
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>> can't expect everybody to update their software overnight when the API |
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>> changes. That means you have to support the old API for a while when |
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>> you introduce a new one, otherwise you end up with some software that |
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>> doesn't work with the old version, and some software that doesn't work |
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>> with the new version. |
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> These days, only symbols/constants that have been deprecated (and |
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> marked as such) for a couple of releases are removed. This means people |
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> see warnings for more than one year before seeing them gone for good. |
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> The problem here is not "overnight changes" but rather consumers not |
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> paying attention to those warnings, or worse, nobody ever seeing those |
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> because it's unmaintained. |
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But we aren't upstream most of the time, and if upstreams are pegging |
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their ffmpeg to a single version they don't bother to try the newer |
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one to find out the errors. Take Kodi, v17.x is pegged to no newer |
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than ffmpeg-3.3.x as I recall, and has been blocking even v3.4's |
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installation for the year'ish it's been in the gentoo repo. |
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So this "people see warnings" thing, it really doesn't apply, unless |
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you (A) have the desire and resources to build and maintain a patch |
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for upstream, and (B) have an upstream with the desire and resources |
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to support more than the one version of ffmpeg for a given release |
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set. Both, IMO, are in very short supply. |
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