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From: Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecating repoman
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 20:00:15
Message-Id: CAAr7Pr_iHRgUQ8pZ63+c3VCFn1cCbvt4x6BaH0CtNC5ms75byA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecating repoman by Joshua Kinard
1 On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:28 AM Joshua Kinard <kumba@g.o> wrote:
2 >
3 > On 3/9/2022 16:47, Matt Turner wrote:
4 > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 1:37 PM Matthias Maier <tamiko@g.o> wrote:
5 > >>
6 > >>
7 > >> Just a quick though:
8 > >>
9 > >> Looking at the man page of repoman it doesn't look to difficult to
10 > >> replicate the behavior with pkgcheck. Meaning, we could think of
11 > >> creating a drop-in replacement for "repoman [full]" (which would just
12 > >> call pkgcheck) and "repoman commit" which actually does much more than
13 > >> just prepending the git commit summary line: repoman commit does
14 > >>
15 > >> - update the manifest
16 > >> - bail out if files are not correctly "git add"ed
17 > >> - add the output of [pkgcheck] as a comment to the git commit
18 > >> description
19 > >
20 > > I wouldn't block anyone from doing this, but it's not something I'm
21 > > personally interested in pursuing. I see very little value here.
22 >
23 > First, you're trying to justify replacing repoman on an entirely subjective
24 > opinion of "I think <foo> is superior", then when you get feedback on the
25 > idea, you dismiss that feedback with more opinion.
26 >
27 > Why do you not see value here? The actions described are actually quite a
28 > few useful steps in the process of checking a change into the tree. If you
29 > expect developers to do those steps on their own, that increases, not
30 > decreases, the chances of making a mistake. Or are these steps already
31 > handled by one of the other scripts in the replacement packages you propose?
32 > If so, please say so and identify which one(s).
33 >
34 > My opinion is that any tool that replaces repoman should, at a minimum,
35 > replace like functionality with like functionality, plus benefits or
36 > enhancements. This looks more like a step backwards, not a step forwards.
37
38 I'd be interested in hearing your workflow, so we can capture it in
39 the table (mentioned earlier) so its clear how your existing workflow
40 will work with the new tools (or perhaps there is a gap, or we need to
41 craft / add additional tools?) I agree on the face it may not be
42 obvious what workflows look like.
43
44 -A
45
46 >
47 > --
48 > Joshua Kinard
49 > Gentoo/MIPS
50 > kumba@g.o
51 > rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27
52 > 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943
53 >
54 > "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And
55 > our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-between."
56 >
57 > --Emperor Turhan, Centauri Republic
58 >

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecating repoman Joshua Kinard <kumba@g.o>