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From: Joost Roeleveld <joost@××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:00:00
Message-Id: 1383405.X2oY6bobqg@eve
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev by Zac Medico
1 On Sunday, October 16, 2011 12:33:51 PM Zac Medico wrote:
2 > On 10/16/2011 06:07 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
3 > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o> wrote:
4 > >> I don't think it's a good idea for Gentoo to encourage users to have
5 > >> /usr on a separate partition. We should probably remove the separate
6 > >> /usr partition from "Code Listing 2.1: Filesystem usage example" in
7 > >> our
8 > >> handbook:
9 > >>
10 > >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=4#d
11 > >> oc_chap2_pre1>
12 > > Well, if we want to do that then we should also update:
13 > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86+raid+lvm2-quickinstall.xml
14 > >
15 > > Of course - that is an initramfs-less configuration, and such a thing
16 > > would be nearly impossible to do with /usr on root unless you
17 > > basically don't put anything of value on the LVM volumes in the first
18 > > place. You could put everything but /boot on LVM and then use an
19 > > initramfs. Or, you need to cover mounting /usr, /var, etc from the
20 > > initramfs.
21 > >
22 > > And I don't think it is a good idea to NOT have a supported RAID/LVM
23 > > configuration. That is hardly an edge case...
24 >
25 > If those LVM volumes require userspace tools to mount, then I think it's
26 > perfectly reasonable to expect them to use either an initramfs or a
27 > simple linuxrc approach [1] to ensure that /usr is mounted before init
28 > starts.
29 >
30 > [1]
31 > http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_20749880f5bc5feda141488498729fe8.x
32 > ml
33
34 If this approach works, would it be an option to add this to the LVM [1] and
35 RAID+LVM [2] pages?
36
37 [1]
38 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/lvm2.xml
39
40 [2]
41 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86+raid+lvm2-quickinstall.xml
42
43 --
44 Joost

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o>