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From: Daniel Robbins <drobbins.daniel@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: EAPI spec (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: let's clear things up (was Slacker archs))
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 00:24:54
Message-Id: 226689f10702201622q28f0f5edsb7a01362ed8dddae@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: EAPI spec (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: let's clear things up (was Slacker archs)) by Ciaran McCreesh
1 Ciaran,
2
3 Is there any way that the public can view the PMS spec that you have
4 created so far?
5
6 I am not totally familiar with how you are going about developing PMS,
7 but based on some of your comments in this thread I'm a little bit
8 concerned.
9
10 -Daniel
11
12 On 2/20/07, Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@×××××××.org> wrote:
13 > On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 23:47:04 +0100 "Denis Dupeyron"
14 > <calchan@g.o> wrote:
15 > | On 2/20/07, Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@×××××××.org> wrote:
16 > | > This is standard practice for professional standards, and is the
17 > |
18 > | Now you talk about this, a standard is, in standard practice, the
19 > | result of a collaborative effort of representing members of the
20 > | organization(s) that is (are) supposed to adhere to said standard. I
21 > | believe I don't need then to explain you how far what happens around
22 > | PMS is from standard practice.
23 >
24 > You know that real standards aren't a free for all, right? They're
25 > usually written by a small group, and then commented on by interested
26 > parties when they're already well into being written. Which is exactly
27 > what we're doing...
28 >
29 > | You say you want to avoid endless discussions "in the interest of
30 > | getting it finished". Now, if your work is that good, why would there
31 > | be any discussions about it?
32 >
33 > Because there are a lot of people with opinions out there, and they
34 > will all start saying things like "well it would be better if things
35 > were like $blah, so you should change it to say $blah". Have a look at
36 > the amount of noise that comes up any time this kind of discussion
37 > takes place on this list...
38 >
39 > Heck, have a look at the number of people already trying to comment
40 > upon how the standard is being written without having seen it...
41 >
42 > | If it's not good enough, why wouldn't you let us talk about it and
43 > | make it better?
44 >
45 > We will let you (for values of you where your opinion is useful and
46 > relevant) discuss it when it is at an appropriate stage.
47 >
48 > | Also, if it goes in the wrong direction, one that
49 > | Gentoo devs won't follow, what's the point in finishing it?
50 >
51 > It isn't going in the wrong direction. The third parties who have
52 > access to it will tell you that.
53 >
54 > --
55 > Ciaran McCreesh
56 > Mail : ciaranm at ciaranm.org
57 > Web : http://ciaranm.org/
58 > Paludis, the secure package manager : http://paludis.pioto.org/
59 >
60 >
61 >
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