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On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 21:45 -0400, Stephen P. Becker wrote: |
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> > I was up late on a friday evening hacking up a nifty addition to my |
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> > system and in my excitement and exuberance jumped on IRC to the dev |
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> > channel to get pointers to the best "official" references to ebuild |
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> > crafting and submission. |
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> > |
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> > As it was absolutely silent, I waited a few minutes and requested voice |
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> > from the first notice of motion i saw in the channel.. "re", or some |
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> > similar indication of important offical business commencing. I was |
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> > informed that the bottom line was voice was only granted to developers, |
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> > period, end of story, no exceptions, and I was obviously misinformed and |
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> > should be elsewhere. Instead of anything like assistance I wound up |
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> > being told |
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> > 1) (condescension) it was people like me who try to skirt the gentoo |
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> > process which are actually the problem even if we think it's contributing, |
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> > 2)these important people in this channel are only here so that they can |
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> > occasionally ping each other and see thier nickname had been highlighted. |
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> > 3) that under no circumstance was I going to get an audience in |
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> > #gentoo-dev, now or in future context, because it was for developers, |
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> > and regardless of 20 years coding experience or working on linux since |
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> > 0.99, I was not a developer |
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> > 4) I could feel free to file a bug if I thought there was an issue, or |
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> > talk to a recruiter about something to help out with. |
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> > |
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> Without hearing the other side of the story or seeing a transcript of |
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> the conversation, it is hard to say whether whoever this was reacted |
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> properly or not, however I would say they have a major stick up their |
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> ass. Don't assume everybody in #gentoo-dev would have reacted to your |
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> query the same way. For example, people have asked me for voice a few |
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> times, and I grant it to them if their question or concern actually has |
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> to do with development of gentoo. If the request amounts to user |
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> support, I tell them to try #gentoo or bugzilla. |
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> In any case, if they said voice was only granted to developers, they are |
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> dead wrong. Developers have ops, while developers in training or |
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> wannabe developers are typically granted voice. |
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I would have to agree with Stephen on this. There are a few developers |
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that would snap like that, but don't assume we're all like that. I'm not |
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sure if IRC would have been the best place to present you 'awesome' new |
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thing. A better idea would probably be to post a thread on this mailing |
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list to get more exposure. Of course, you could include your nickname |
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for IRC, but this or the forums would be a great place to get 'noticed' |
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per say if it really would be something to add to Gentoo. |
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Lance Albertson <ramereth@g.o> |
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