Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds

[Chris Gianelloni]

On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 07:04 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > "bring the work to the main tree"?
> >
> > As in... duplicate functionality already provided by catalyst for quite
> > some time?
>
> Catalyst doesn't provide ongoing maintenance or migration of installed
> systems ... you need more than just a spec file for one of these seeds.

Like what?  It sounds like they aren't providing anything but tarballs.

> > Why hasn't anybody even *tried* to contact Release Engineering on
> > something like this, considering we already have all of the tools
> > necessary to complete this, as well as the expertise?
>
> Perhaps because anyone can use the tools, and they don't need to be a
> releng member to do so?

Because it's *REALLY* stupid and shows just how unprofessional we are
when we have multiple groups doing the *EXACT* same thing using
different policies and procedures and all pushing it as if it were
*OFFICIAL* for the distribution.

I mean, we're really getting to the point where this is getting
*COMPLETELY* ludicrous.  Instead of trying to work together, we have
every yahoo with an @gentoo.org address who wants to do something
*slightly* differently coming up with a new "project" for it.

Why can't we simply try to work *together* on things instead of this
whole "I'll start a new project" mentality that we have?  It seems that
this *exact* sort of action is what causes frustrations between
developers and serves to strengthen the territorial pissing contests
that are going on daily all over Gentoo.  The reason why it seems Gentoo
is fracturing is because of multiple people doing the exact same thing
in slightly different ways.  Our users don't know what the hell is going
on anymore.  Well, they're not alone... neither do I.

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering Strategic Lead
Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams
Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee
Gentoo Foundation