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On 9/20/06, Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o> wrote: |
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> > Catalyst doesn't provide ongoing maintenance or migration of installed |
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> > systems ... you need more than just a spec file for one of these seeds. |
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> Like what? It sounds like they aren't providing anything but tarballs. |
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Tarballs, VMware images, vserver images, Xen images, and CDs are what |
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we'll eventually deliver, sure. Before then, we'll be putting |
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together packages and (we expect) profiles too. It's likely that |
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we'll also support folks who want to install seeds from source (ie, |
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from a generic stage3 install) as well as folks who want to seed |
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directly from a stage4 tarball or equivalent. We have already made a |
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(small) start in the project's overlay, and we've started documenting |
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our ideas and hopes on our project's wiki. |
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We don't pretend to have all the answers; part of the joy of this |
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project will be learning how to do this stuff, and what can be |
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achieved with the tools that we all have access to. |
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> Because it's *REALLY* stupid and shows just how unprofessional we are |
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> when we have multiple groups doing the *EXACT* same thing using |
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> different policies and procedures and all pushing it as if it were |
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> *OFFICIAL* for the distribution. |
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How exactly do rants like this look "professional" at all? |
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> I mean, we're really getting to the point where this is getting |
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> *COMPLETELY* ludicrous. Instead of trying to work together, we have |
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> every yahoo with an @gentoo.org address who wants to do something |
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> *slightly* differently coming up with a new "project" for it. |
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We are working together. I'm sorry if you feel left out, but we've |
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been talking to the folks that we need help from, and I'd like to |
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publicly say "thank you" to them for how helpful and supportive |
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they've been. I hope Chris' email won't discourage anyone from |
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continuing to help us. |
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Until this childish tantrum arrived in my Inbox, I didn't know anyone |
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was unhappy. |
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Btw, I would thank you for coming to talk to me directly about this |
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issue first (which is how we ask Gentoo developers to behave) - but |
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unfortunately, you didn't, so I can't. |
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> Why can't we simply try to work *together* on things instead of this |
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> whole "I'll start a new project" mentality that we have? |
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I think you've just demonstrated the problem far better than I could have. |
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Best regards, |
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Stu |
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