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From: Jeroen Roovers <jer@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: 0-day bump requests
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:12:48
Message-Id: 20080704191239.083c15c9@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: 0-day bump requests by "Tony \\\"Chainsaw\\\" Vroon"
1 On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:26:13 +0100
2 "Tony \"Chainsaw\" Vroon" <chainsaw@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 01:16 +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote:
5 > > 1) How do you feel when you receive an early version bump request?
6 >
7 > If it is for software where I am also upstream (Audacious for
8 > example), it does tend to annoy me when people try their utmost to
9 > file bug reports before I commit my ebuild. (I have yet to miss a
10 > release by more then 6 hours)
11 >
12 > > 2) If you had your way, would you discourage users from filing early
13 > > version bump requests?
14 >
15 > For things like the nVidia drivers I do welcome it. The time I can
16 > spend trawling upstream sites for new releases is limited.
17 >
18 > Just an idea:
19 > How about a metadata.xml tag that indicates whether early bump
20 > requests are welcome? It's more of an individual developer
21 > preference, but that seems the right place for it.
22
23 Its' half an idea, in my opinion. We need a process, not just a tag in a
24 file. The tag in the file would tell us how a bug should perhaps be
25 treated, and metadata.xml is an excellent place to concentrate such
26 information, but to tell a bug wrangler (or anyone else) to "do nothing
27 for X units of time" isn't going to work. As for what the tag might
28 tell us, I think leaving bugs on hold for a few days is not the right
29 approach - users (as well as, say, fellow developers and upstreams)
30 shouldn't have to "artificially" wait to make their release
31 announcements and bug wranglers shouldn't be expected to keep these
32 bugs on their own lists in some artificial sense - it just means more
33 work for everyone and more delay in communications between users and
34 developers.
35
36 I am currently thinking of making a very broad division between
37 bump requests for more or less "independent" packages on the one hand,
38 and packages that (clearly) belong to a suite (KDE and GNOME are good
39 examples, although the latter team "owns" quite a few independantly
40 useable packages) or to wildly popular packages that announces releases
41 weeks to months ahead (Mozilla).
42
43 I personally think that bump requests of the "KDE 5 OMG" and "WHEREIS
44 FF4?" kind are to be RESOLVED as LATER forthwith. That saves a lot of
45 dupe checking as well! :)
46
47
48 Kind regards,
49 JeR
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