Re: [gentoo-dev] Considering dropping the hardened toolchain (A Quantitive Approach)

[Ned Ludd]

On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 01:16, Allen Parker wrote:
> Hey Ned, solar, hardened folks...
>
> I've got a couple of pennies to throw into this mix:
> Even though my own participation (due to work schedules - 3 jobs
> doesn't leave a whole lot of time for other stuff) has waned, I
> believe that your hardened toolchain is top-notch. Yes, it's bleeding
> edge, it's not mature, etc... that doesn't mean we should have a
> partial-birth abortion. Hardened has been around for a while, yes, but
> if you spend 10 minutes in #gentoo you'll see, a LOT of our users
> aren't prepared for something as in-depth as hardened.
>
> Gentoo currently LEADS linux distributions in configurability in
> regards to hardened/selinux/security. Bar NONE! For the experienced,
> hardened *can't* be replaced by anything out there. If I had the skill
> level to assist in any way, I'd be the first guy in line to help.
> Unfortunately, my experience is more limited to finding
> non-programming solutions to get the job, whatever that job may be,
> done. Perhaps this thread will catch someone's eye, someone that CAN
> help, at least drum up some user support.
>
> Solar, before reading your email, I had no idea that you were feeling
> like that. Maybe we can get someone with a *little* more experience
> than me, perhaps a trusted user/non-dev that can be a bug-filter?
>
> To the hardened community: If you can afford the time, check
> bugs.gentoo.org for hardened bugs... if there are bugs that you know
> of that are FUD, email a list of bug #'s to your favorite hardened
> dev, after replying with a solution to the particular user, whether or
> not it's a PEBKAC issue or not.
>
> that's all for me, gotta head back to work *sigh*


Don't panic yet.. 
So far I have been getting good feedback from some users and atleast one
potential developer in some mails off list. I plan to put a detailed
mail together in as few days and mail the interested parties and
hopefully assemble a larger more professional team so we can fully
continue to offer these types of technologies and continue to push fwd
together.



>
> Allen Parker
> infowolfe@××××××××××××.net (when i'm online) #/tmp #gentoo-hardened #gentoo-dev.
>
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Ned Ludd <solar@g.o>
Gentoo (hardened,security,infrastructure,embedded,toolchain) Developer