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From: Mart Raudsepp <leio@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement
Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2017 03:11:34
Message-Id: 1483499478.26039.3.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement by Damien LEVAC
1 Ühel kenal päeval, T, 03.01.2017 kell 09:34, kirjutas Damien LEVAC:
2 >
3 > On 01/03/2017 09:31 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote:
4 > >
5 > > On 03/01/17 11:05, Michał Górny wrote:
6 > > >
7 > > > On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07)
8 > > > grozin@g.o wrote:
9 > > >
10 > > > >
11 > > > > On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrote:
12 > > > > >
13 > > > > > IMO, this one should be given last-rites as upstream is dead
14 > > > > > and it
15 > > > > > heavily depends on wireless-tools and WEXT.
16 > > > > I use it on 2 notebooks. It works fine, and is (from my point
17 > > > > of view) the
18 > > > > most convenient tool to control ethernet and wifi connections
19 > > > > on a
20 > > > > notebook. Why lastrite it when it works?
21 > > > This is the Gentoo Way™. Having a working software is not a goal.
22 > > > Gentoo focuses on the best bleeding edge experience and therefore
23 > > > highly relies on software packages that are under active
24 > > > development
25 > > > and require active maintenance. The packages in early stages of
26 > > > development are especially interesting since they can supply
27 > > > users
28 > > > and developers with variety of interesting bugs and unpredictable
29 > > > issues.
30 > > >
31 > >  From your response I infer the following, please discuss:
32 > > 1) "working software is not a goal" .. so we can have a tree full
33 > > of
34 > > broken and/or unstable packages. What is the point of any QA/CI
35 > > system
36 > > if this is applicable?
37 > > 2) "require active maintainance" .. by whom exactly? Where are the
38 > > flood
39 > > of keen developers bringing their bleeding edge code (with their
40 > > ludicrous packaging requirements and language demands) to Gentoo?
41 > > 3) "interesting bugs and unpredictable isssue" .. WTF?
42 > >
43 > > Michal .. are you (once again...) High .. or is your email (once
44 > > again)
45 > > so soaked in sarcasm we can't tell any useful content from the
46 > > complete
47 > > drivel ...
48 > >
49 > It was obviously sarcasm... The "Gentoo Way™" was the hint... It is
50 > a 
51 > cynical criticism of younger generation of developers mixing 
52 > intellectual curiosity with what should be an ultra-stable platform.
53 > (Or 
54 > this is how I interpreted it...)
55
56
57 I believe with this mgorny has given ample proof that he is just a
58 ciaranm sock puppet account.
59 Now where did I leave my pitchfork at...

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement Kent Fredric <kentnl@g.o>