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From: Damien LEVAC <damien.levac@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2017 14:34:58
Message-Id: b5081031-7b0e-9fea-5792-3ccf5de9630b@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement by "M. J. Everitt"
1 On 01/03/2017 09:31 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote:
2 > On 03/01/17 11:05, Michał Górny wrote:
3 >> On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07)
4 >> grozin@g.o wrote:
5 >>
6 >>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrote:
7 >>>> IMO, this one should be given last-rites as upstream is dead and it
8 >>>> heavily depends on wireless-tools and WEXT.
9 >>> I use it on 2 notebooks. It works fine, and is (from my point of view) the
10 >>> most convenient tool to control ethernet and wifi connections on a
11 >>> notebook. Why lastrite it when it works?
12 >> This is the Gentoo Way™. Having a working software is not a goal.
13 >> Gentoo focuses on the best bleeding edge experience and therefore
14 >> highly relies on software packages that are under active development
15 >> and require active maintenance. The packages in early stages of
16 >> development are especially interesting since they can supply users
17 >> and developers with variety of interesting bugs and unpredictable
18 >> issues.
19 >>
20 > From your response I infer the following, please discuss:
21 > 1) "working software is not a goal" .. so we can have a tree full of
22 > broken and/or unstable packages. What is the point of any QA/CI system
23 > if this is applicable?
24 > 2) "require active maintainance" .. by whom exactly? Where are the flood
25 > of keen developers bringing their bleeding edge code (with their
26 > ludicrous packaging requirements and language demands) to Gentoo?
27 > 3) "interesting bugs and unpredictable isssue" .. WTF?
28 >
29 > Michal .. are you (once again...) High .. or is your email (once again)
30 > so soaked in sarcasm we can't tell any useful content from the complete
31 > drivel ...
32 >
33 It was obviously sarcasm... The "Gentoo Way™" was the hint... It is a
34 cynical criticism of younger generation of developers mixing
35 intellectual curiosity with what should be an ultra-stable platform. (Or
36 this is how I interpreted it...)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement Mart Raudsepp <leio@g.o>