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From: Alexander V Vershilov <alexander.vershilov@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 17:32:20
Message-Id: CAO-1Pb4Bspe-Yv57S70rFdeX4M48cXQ=H6D=4THfeGU9i89=Dw@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up by Ian Stakenvicius
1 On Dec 3, 2013 1:24 AM, "Ian Stakenvicius" <axs@g.o> wrote:
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6 > On 02/12/13 04:19 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
7 > > On 12/02/2013 03:28 PM, William Hubbs wrote: [...]
8 > >> Also, the other message in this thread is correct; the netifrc
9 > >> use flag is temporary.
10 > >
11 > >> I originally planned to release openrc-0.12.x along with a
12 > >> newsitem that instructed you to emerge the netifrc package if you
13 > >> want the legacy network stack, but some users/devs felt that
14 > >> Ishould go further to make sure netifrc remains installed on
15 > >> their systems.
16 > >
17 > > As one of those devs, I feel now may be a good time to ask.... What
18 > > are we doing about this? In my opinion, anyone removing net
19 > > support from the stage3's should be killed with fire. That said, I
20 > > don't care if it's netifrc or whatever as long as it is properly
21 > > documented and actually usable.
22 > >
23 > > Thoughts on how we move forward?
24 > >
25 > > Thanks, Zero
26 > >
27 >
28 > Well, part of this conversation needs to be, what is the default
29 > networking stack that we want to have in gentoo? IMO that should
30 > remain netifrc but that's just my personal opinion.
31
32 I personally like netifrc default but there is no good way to use it as
33 default we will need to keep use flag arbitrary long or add netifrc to
34 @system but it will return us back to the problems of users who doesn't
35 want to have netifrc on their systems. And with the rise of systems and NM
36 the number of such users will grow. Anyway I'd like to see base system herd
37 vote.
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39 > After deciding that, I expect we should decide how to include it. My
40 > guess would be, since for whatever reason we don't want netifrc as
41 > part of @system or a dep of baselayout-2 or anything like that, we'd
42 > need to add it to the special releng include list?
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Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up William Hubbs <williamh@g.o>