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From: William Hubbs <williamh@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 21:11:44
Message-Id: 20131203211130.GA31972@linux1
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up by Alexander V Vershilov
1 On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 09:32:10PM +0400, Alexander V Vershilov wrote:
2 > On Dec 3, 2013 1:24 AM, "Ian Stakenvicius" <axs@g.o> wrote:
3 > >
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6 > >
7 > > On 02/12/13 04:19 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
8 > > > On 12/02/2013 03:28 PM, William Hubbs wrote: [...]
9 > > >> Also, the other message in this thread is correct; the netifrc
10 > > >> use flag is temporary.
11 > > >
12 > > >> I originally planned to release openrc-0.12.x along with a
13 > > >> newsitem that instructed you to emerge the netifrc package if you
14 > > >> want the legacy network stack, but some users/devs felt that
15 > > >> Ishould go further to make sure netifrc remains installed on
16 > > >> their systems.
17 > > >
18 > > > As one of those devs, I feel now may be a good time to ask.... What
19 > > > are we doing about this? In my opinion, anyone removing net
20 > > > support from the stage3's should be killed with fire. That said, I
21 > > > don't care if it's netifrc or whatever as long as it is properly
22 > > > documented and actually usable.
23 > > >
24 > > > Thoughts on how we move forward?
25 > > >
26 > > > Thanks, Zero
27 > > >
28 > >
29 > > Well, part of this conversation needs to be, what is the default
30 > > networking stack that we want to have in gentoo? IMO that should
31 > > remain netifrc but that's just my personal opinion.
32 >
33 > I personally like netifrc default but there is no good way to use it as
34 > default we will need to keep use flag arbitrary long or add netifrc to
35 > @system but it will return us back to the problems of users who doesn't
36 > want to have netifrc on their systems. And with the rise of systems and NM
37 > the number of such users will grow. Anyway I'd like to see base system herd
38 > vote.
39
40 I would like to add a virtual/network-manager package to @system which
41 has the following rdepend settings:
42
43 RDEPEND=" || (
44 net-misc/netifrc
45 >=sys-apps/openrc-0.12[newnet]
46 net-misc/badvpn
47 net-misc/dhcpcd
48 net-misc/netctl
49 net-misc/NetworkManager
50 net-misc/wicd )"
51
52 Does anyone see an issue with setting it up this way?
53
54 William

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Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up Ian Stakenvicius <axs@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up mingdao <gentoo-dev@×××××××××××××××××××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up "Rick \\\"Zero_Chaos\\\" Farina" <zerochaos@g.o>