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On 2013-12-03, at 4:11 PM, William Hubbs <williamh@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 09:32:10PM +0400, Alexander V Vershilov wrote: |
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>> On Dec 3, 2013 1:24 AM, "Ian Stakenvicius" <axs@g.o> wrote: |
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>>> On 02/12/13 04:19 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: |
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>>>> On 12/02/2013 03:28 PM, William Hubbs wrote: [...] |
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>>>>> Also, the other message in this thread is correct; the netifrc |
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>>>>> use flag is temporary. |
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>>>>> I originally planned to release openrc-0.12.x along with a |
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>>>>> newsitem that instructed you to emerge the netifrc package if you |
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>>>>> want the legacy network stack, but some users/devs felt that |
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>>>>> Ishould go further to make sure netifrc remains installed on |
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>>>>> their systems. |
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>>>> As one of those devs, I feel now may be a good time to ask.... What |
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>>>> are we doing about this? In my opinion, anyone removing net |
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>>>> support from the stage3's should be killed with fire. That said, I |
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>>>> don't care if it's netifrc or whatever as long as it is properly |
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>>>> documented and actually usable. |
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>>>> Thoughts on how we move forward? |
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>>>> Thanks, Zero |
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>>> Well, part of this conversation needs to be, what is the default |
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>>> networking stack that we want to have in gentoo? IMO that should |
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>>> remain netifrc but that's just my personal opinion. |
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>> I personally like netifrc default but there is no good way to use it as |
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>> default we will need to keep use flag arbitrary long or add netifrc to |
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>> @system but it will return us back to the problems of users who doesn't |
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>> want to have netifrc on their systems. And with the rise of systems and NM |
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>> the number of such users will grow. Anyway I'd like to see base system herd |
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>> vote. |
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> I would like to add a virtual/network-manager package to @system which |
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> has the following rdepend settings: |
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> RDEPEND=" || ( |
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> net-misc/netifrc |
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> >=sys-apps/openrc-0.12[newnet] |
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> net-misc/badvpn |
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> net-misc/dhcpcd |
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> net-misc/netctl |
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> net-misc/NetworkManager |
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> net-misc/wicd )" |
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> Does anyone see an issue with setting it up this way? |
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> William |
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well, there is the issue where dhcpcd being installed (which is common for netifrc support) is going to allow netifrc to be cleaned... similar for NM and Wicd I expect, if those aren't in @world .... |