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From: Chris Bainbridge <C.J.Bainbridge@×××××.uk>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Niches and new developers (especially xbox)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:40:14
Message-Id: 200406132340.05803.C.J.Bainbridge@ed.ac.uk
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Niches and new developers (especially xbox) by Chris Gianelloni
1 On Sunday 13 June 2004 21:26, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
2 > On Sat, 2004-06-12 at 09:10, Chris Bainbridge wrote:
3 > > We are not "circumventing a technological measure that effectively
4 > > controls access to a work". If we were, it would be possible to copy and
5 > > play pirated games. How can a system that retains the existing security
6 > > features of the xbox be considered to be circumventing them?
7 >
8 > How about access to the BIOS? Is that not controlled? Bypassing an
9 > access control doesn't have to mean stealing games.
10
11 The bios is encrypted. Neither a software exploit or hardware modchip will
12 allow access to the unencrypted bios. Its like saying that a DVD driver
13 violates the DMCA because it allows access to the encrypted disk.
14
15 I think you need quite an advanced hardware setup to crack the encryption on
16 the bios - something like the FPGA northbridge sniffer in Bunnies book. You
17 can't do it from software.
18
19 > > It would be marketing it. It would not, however, be marketed for the
20 > > purpose of circumventing the protection on commercial DVDs.
21
22 > Nobody said it would. I'm talking about BIOS access, and always have
23 > been. Your viewpoint is too narrow as you're focusing on *only* copying
24 > games/DVDs illegally.
25
26 Cool, well if you agree with the DVD drive/encrypted data analogy then
27 xbox-linux is legal and we can proceed with the gentoo plans :)
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