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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: tetromino@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Application name in metadata.xml
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:21:45
Message-Id: 20120212222258.3cce66e3@pomiocik.lan
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Application name in metadata.xml by Alexandre Rostovtsev
1 On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:14:42 -0500
2 Alexandre Rostovtsev <tetromino@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 20:37 +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
5 > > >>>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012, Paweł Hajdan, wrote:
6 > >
7 > > > On 2/11/12 2:00 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
8 > > >> Other distros associate a more user-friendly package name
9 > > >> (application name) to packages.
10 > > >> Say, they bind libreoffice-writer to "LibreOffice Writer" in
11 > > >> package metadata.
12 > >
13 > > [Replying to a random message in this thread.]
14 > >
15 > > Why do you think that writing the package name in mixed case and
16 > > with embedded white space would be more "user friendly"?
17 >
18 > because-removing-all-upper-case-spaces-and-punctuation-from-a-string
19 > makes it less readable to a non-programmer.
20 >
21 > > >> How about expanding metadata.xml (adding to its .dtd) to also
22 > > >> support this?
23 > >
24 > > I still don't see what this would buy us. So far we have a unique
25 > > identifier (namely ${CATEGORY}/${PN}) for our packages. Introducing
26 > > another name will water this down and cause confusion for users, in
27 > > the first place.
28 > >
29 > > So, can you point out what are the advantages of your proposal?
30 > > Are they large enough to outweigh the confusion arising?
31 >
32 > Users know a package's "natural name", not the occasionally cryptic
33 > ebuild name, and certainly not the category. If I want to install a
34 > game called "Neverwinter Nights", it may not be immediately apparent
35 > to me that I should emerge something called "games-rpg/nwn".
36 >
37 > Adding the natural name to metadata would allow users to more easily
38 > find the packages they need via packages.gentoo.org and tools like
39 > eix.
40
41 And make it less possible that users will actually report a bug
42 and suggest changing the package name to a less ambiguous one.
43
44 And AFAICS there's no 'nwn' in SRC_URI so it's just pointless to
45 abbreviate the name like that in our ebuild name.
46
47 --
48 Best regards,
49 Michał Górny

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Application name in metadata.xml Alexandre Rostovtsev <tetromino@g.o>