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From: Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Council Council: call for agenda items for June 12 meeting
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 12:10:17
Message-Id: 1465646998.974.86.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Council Council: call for agenda items for June 12 meeting by Daniel Campbell
1 El sáb, 11-06-2016 a las 03:35 -0700, Daniel Campbell escribió:
2 > On 06/10/2016 02:45 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
3 > >
4 > > Hello,
5 > >
6 > > Considering the strength of response from a Council member, I would
7 > > like to officially apologize for providing the agenda items and I
8 > > would
9 > > like to withdraw them all appropriately. Thank you for your time,
10 > > and I
11 > > wish you re-election.
12 > >
13 > >
14 > > On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:06:25 +0200
15 > > Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote:
16 > >
17 > > >
18 > > > On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 07:01:03 -0400
19 > > > "Anthony G. Basile" <blueness@g.o> wrote:
20 > > >
21 > > > >
22 > > > > Hi everyone,
23 > > > >
24 > > > > The Council will be meeting on Sunday June 12.  This is a call
25 > > > > for any
26 > > > > agenda items.  
27 > > > In preferred order of discussion (i.e. shortest topics first):
28 > > >
29 > > > 1. the 'file installation masks' GLEP [spec:1, RFC:2, bug:3]. It
30 > > > still
31 > > > hasn't been merged by the GLEP editors but it's otherwise ready
32 > > > with
33 > > > reference implementation for Portage. Preferably please discuss
34 > > > this
35 > > > separately/before LINGUAS as it is quite generic and I think
36 > > > having it
37 > > > approved would benefit us. The part specifically needing Council
38 > > > approval is the extra configuration file in metadata/ dir of the
39 > > > repository.
40 > > >
41 > > > 2. The patch fixing USE_EXPAND handling in Portage to adhere to
42 > > > the rules enforced by the PMS for EAPI 5 and newer [patch:4,
43 > > > patch v1:5, bug:6]. The patch comes in two variants. The former
44 > > > (preferred by me) applies the change to all EAPIs since this way
45 > > > we can
46 > > > kill the ugly logic for earlier EAPIs and PMS leaves the behavior
47 > > > undefined for them. The latter applies it only to EAPI 5 and
48 > > > newer,
49 > > > leaving current behavior for older EAPIs. I don't think it really
50 > > > makes
51 > > > sense to have different logic as EAPI 5 is quite common already,
52 > > > and
53 > > > different behavior will only increase confusion.
54 > > >
55 > > > 3. New sys-devel/gcc USE=multislot [QA bug:7]. I originally
56 > > > wanted to
57 > > > do this via QA but considering the replies to bugs opened so far,
58 > > > I
59 > > > think Council approval would be additionally helpful. The key
60 > > > point of
61 > > > my request would be to kill the flag, and stop force-removing old
62 > > > versions implicitly.
63 > > >
64 > > > 4. LINGUAS [8,9]. Long story short, PMS considered, we implicitly
65 > > > strip
66 > > > localizations from most of the packages out there. I think the
67 > > > first
68 > > > step towards fixing it that the most people can approve is
69 > > > renaming
70 > > > the USE_EXPAND from LINGUAS to I18N or L10N, or generally
71 > > > something
72 > > > else, plus a news item.
73 > > >
74 > > > 5. USE=gui [10]. It seems to get some appreciation but I suspect
75 > > > it's
76 > > > going to end up going to the Council anyway.
77 > > >
78 > > > I think that's all for now. If I recall something else, I'll let
79 > > > you
80 > > > know.
81 > > >
82 > > >
83 > > > [1]:https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:MGorny/GLEP:INSTALL_MASK
84 > > > [2]:https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/af5de8be051fdf
85 > > > 60d4d4aef97df6e683
86 > > > [3]:https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=584452
87 > > > [4]:https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage-dev/message/42e3a1
88 > > > 34d14e33e037e35e6c5df9d05d
89 > > > [5]:https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage-dev/message/b79fc6
90 > > > bd174a356c62bda59d0b0e9e8e
91 > > > [6]:https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=583750
92 > > > [7]:https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=584610
93 > > > [8]:https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/a08ea09c2c8e53
94 > > > 4fd9bc1146703c66ff
95 > > > [9]:https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/41e09d1ddc8b30
96 > > > abb9f9d21d205b7b82
97 > > > [10]:https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/eecad37024811
98 > > > 8c474a0d819fa7f3576
99 > > >
100 > >
101 > >
102 > I can understand wanting to avoid a conflict of interest, but I
103 > really
104 > don't see the trouble in suggesting your ideas hit the agenda. The
105 > council can always choose "we don't want to decide on this yet". At
106 > least, that's what I understand.
107 >
108
109 Yeah, I also fail to see what is wrong with suggesting the items for
110 the agenda... is not that the purpose of this call? Or maybe I am
111 missing some replies to the thread :|

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