Re: [gentoo-dev] ideas/bugs

[Martin Schlemmer]

On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 20:39, Christian Loitsch wrote:
> hi,
>
> I just finished compiling the base system on an MMX-130 Mhz with 48MB of
> Ram.  (slow but doable).  Note that 48MB were nearly always enough for
> the compilation!  (ok glibc would have liked more ;).
>
> I made some observations, and would like to know, which of them are
> considered as bugs.  (so that I can enter them in bugzilla)
>
> * why is there an mta-mysql USE flag, and no mta-postgres?

I'm thinking there should not be a mta-postgres one, as the
MTA should compile in either if 'mysql' or 'postgres' is in
the USE.

> * why do you call the postgresql-flag postgres?  After all its name is
>   postgresql (you don't call mysql mys)

Shortness ?  Not sure on this one.

> * why are the permissions of /etc/make.conf so strict (only 600 on my
>   machine)  (i hope it wasn't me who changed them ;)

Mine is 0644.  Should not really make a difference until
user 'emerging' is implemented.

> * as I am behind a firewall, which asks for username and password, I
>   could not use wget.  The only program, which is (afaik!) capable of
>   even "tunneling" through an ftp-proxy is lftp.
>   I downloaded a static version (and modified the lftp-get script, so
>   that it accepted a Path-option) and it worked really well.
>   But it took me quite some time to realize that bootstrap doesn't use
>   FETCHCOMMAND.  You could at least mention it somewhere.
>   I also really think that lftp is more appropriate than wget.
> * fortunately I have access to a machine outside the firewall and was
>   therefore able to make the rsync there and then download it via ftp,
>   would be really nice, to do this directly.
> * why does the installation of grub won't work if /boot is not a
>   partition on its own?  (had no cdrom and "installed" the iso-image
>   temporarely on the boot-partition)

I think it is a oversite/bug of a recent bug fix, will have
a look later on if I get the time.

> * my installed system works "worse" than the iso-image.
>   the installation-manual does not explain how to set up the right
>   keyboard and "make menuconfig" shows funny chars instead of the lines.
>   (afaik this is only an Env. variable, but which one)

You should edit /etc/rc.conf.  Check the Desktop guide, as I
am almost sertain its in there.

> * depscan is maybe not called with the right params in the boot-scripts:
>   depscan: Usage depscan ....

This probibly means you have a old/broken script in
/etc/init.d.  The next baselayout should fix this issue.

> * why do you ask users in you manual to execute depmod, if it is in 1 of
>   your boot-scripts?

Extra info/help that was included in the rc-scripts later on
to make life more painless.  Cannot hurt to remind a user,
but guess we can remove it if its really that a big a deal.

> * I guess the best way to avoid "broken" Gentoos because of forgetting
>   the -w option with nano, would be to make an alias right at the
>   beginning.  (like nanow)

Gentoo is in general for system admin's and developers
intended (last time I checked), this we try to educate, rather
than spoon feed.

> * i think that you should also treat pcmcia a little bit in your
>   install-manual.

On the TODO list somewhere.

> * because of wrong parameters the pcmcia-boot-script failed.  But there
>   was no message.  like [ FAIL ]
>

Submit a bug report at http://bugs.gentoo.org/

>
> * I have not yet verified the next point:
>   I have a pcmcia-network-card, but because of a race condition (will
>   make a bug-report), I had to remove the net.eth0 script (rc-update del
>   net.eth0), and call it manually.
>   Surprisingly when I halt the system there is still a message:
>   ??  Bringing down eth0  ??  which of course fails, because I brought
>   it down already manually.
>

You sure you did a '/etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop' as well ?
What exactly is the race condition ?

>
> Please note that I do _not_ consider everything I mentioned as bug!
>

Sure :)



Greetings,

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Martin Schlemmer
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team Developer
Cape Town, South Africa