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From: "Nathan L. Adams" <nadams@××××.org>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 01:01:18
Message-Id: 436AB150.4010503@ieee.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting by Chris Gianelloni
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4 Chris Gianelloni wrote:
5 > On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 12:26 +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
6 >
7 >>On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 13:16:03 +0100 Thierry Carrez <koon@g.o>
8 >>wrote:
9 >>| For them to know about it, they need to be warned when they do their
10 >>| "emerge -p world" or "emerge -a mysql" that the upgrade is not as easy
11 >>| as it seems. People using a cron job to sync are probably a
12 >>| significant part of our user base...
13 >>
14 >>Have Portage give a red flashy before emerge if there're unread news
15 >>items?
16 >
17 > Or have it die unless they have
18 > I_LIKE_A_BROKEN_SYSTEM_PLEASE_IGNORE_NEWS="yes" in make.conf.... ;]
19 >
20 >>Although, a better solution for users who cron sync would be to have
21 >>said cron mail them all the relevant news files...
22 >
23 > We don't have control over what they do in cron, we do have control over
24 > portage itself.
25 >
26
27 The cron thing is a *really* good idea. Its so good that its an example
28 in the Gentoo Cron How-to. A few developers actively debugging the sync
29 process might enjoy watching the output of a sync scroll by, but
30 normal/sane people have better things to do. (Note: I'm not bashing
31 Chris's statement here; I honestly don't know what point he was trying
32 to make).
33
34 So don't implement the --news thing in such a way that in the future a
35 developer might be tempted to tell a complaining user "whats the matter
36 with you? don't you read the output when you sync? no? what a loser; no
37 wonder your system is b0rked." (or something to that effect)
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