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From: Corey Shields <cshields@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] a #g-d first impression might represent process and metastructure
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 00:09:54
Message-Id: 200506081714.07362.cshields@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] a #g-d first impression might represent process and metastructure by Jim Northrup
1 Sorry you had a bad experience. Please do not let the words and actions of
2 one developer reflect on the hundreds of others.
3
4 On Wednesday 08 June 2005 04:23 pm, Jim Northrup wrote:
5 <snip>
6 > 1) There is nowhere specified on gentoo.org or gentoo maintained sites
7 > I've rtfm'd specifying any hint of conduct guidelines for being a
8 > developer interfacing with the outside world, representing the
9 > organization. Common social ettiquette does not always reside with
10 > skilled techies...
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12 We specifically talk about irc in the etiquette policy:
13
14 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=3&chap=2
15
16 > 2) There are gentoo.org references to #gentoo-dev, but the process of
17 > interfacing, mentoring, and recruiting are self-referential beginning
18 > with a bootstrap of being on the good side of an existing developer. So
19 > for those of us who do not establish favorable dialogues by filing a
20 > bug, the door starts out closed.
21
22 It's a good idea to have everything bugged just for the sake of getting things
23 accomplished. IRC is nice, and a lot of collaboration goes on there, but a
24 lot of things fall through the cracks. If there seems to be a lot of push to
25 interface through bugzilla, the reasons are to be able to track stuff and get
26 it done. I hate bugzilla as much as the next guy, but I think it helps to
27 prevent a lot of frustration from requests getting lost.
28
29 Cheers,
30
31 -Corey
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33 --
34 Corey Shields
35 Gentoo Linux Infrastructure Team and Devrel Team
36 Gentoo Foundation Board of Trustees
37 http://www.gentoo.org/~cshields