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to address Luca, Erin, and Patrick as well, and cease the thread hijack |
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implications |
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Rob Holland wrote: |
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>On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:59:34AM -0700, Jim Northrup wrote: |
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>>might I suggest not kicking #gentoo-dev visitors who ask for voice to |
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>>speak to the devs without a 'rtfm & go get a gentoo job' smokescreen ? |
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>Sorry, I've missed how that's relevant to Gentoo metastructure..? |
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I could go into specifics, but I'd just like to say that regardless of |
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how busy (and spending time on irc condescending non-devs?), you will |
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occasionally find folks like me ignorant of process, but willing to |
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contribute a fix here and there. |
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My history with gentoo is one of putting it into production, and working |
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with gentoo for more years than many developers both for enjoyment and |
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livelyhood. |
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so if it makes a difference, I approached a dev on #gentoo-dev, and met |
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with condescending and belittling treatment when i asked for voice. I |
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will not be going into names or specifics. |
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undeterred, I have taken the reccomendations, and rtfm'd and established |
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relations with developers nearly filing a bugzilla entry in the process |
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to highlight the ridiculous level of bother my role as outsider seemed |
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to present. |
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the gentoo [meta]process deficiencies I can present for consideration are: |
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1) There is nowhere specified on gentoo.org or gentoo maintained sites |
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I've rtfm'd specifying any hint of conduct guidelines for being a |
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developer interfacing with the outside world, representing the |
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organization. Common social ettiquette does not always reside with |
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skilled techies... |
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2) There are gentoo.org references to #gentoo-dev, but the process of |
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interfacing, mentoring, and recruiting are self-referential beginning |
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with a bootstrap of being on the good side of an existing developer. So |
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for those of us who do not establish favorable dialogues by filing a |
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bug, the door starts out closed. |
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Jim |
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