Re: [gentoo-dev] Apache build

[Stuart Herbert]

On Monday 07 June 2004 13:05, Josh Ockert wrote:
> No, it isn't a user error.

Of course it was, Josh.  The user didn't correctly re-configure the Apache 
config file.  Just because the user had pre-conceived ideas about the 
contents of the Apache config file, it doesn't mean that Apache was at fault.

> The default configuration for Apache 2
> *and* Apache 1.x let you change your DocumentRoot without having to
> create a specific <Directory> section, as they are covered by
> <Directory />.

Agreed.  But, at the moment, our configuration files do not.

It would seem sensible for us to look into switching to the same config files 
that are normally installed by Apache.

> "My guess is that the original Apache2 config files that we ship were
> designed to look like the older Apache1 configuration files."
>
> Eh? You don't ship any *original* Apache2 config files AFAICS and no,
> they look nothing like the older config files.

I've certainly used separate httpd.conf and commonapache.conf files on a 
non-Gentoo system in the past.  Can't remember which distro it was tho ...

> Very definitely an "I'm right and you're wrong and I won't even bother
> explaining it to you because you're obviously inferior to me and you
> won't understand" attitude. Glad he's gone.

You're entitled to your own opinion, of course, but haranging someone who a) 
did a lot of great things for Gentoo, and b) isn't here to defend himself is 
hardly going to endear you to us, now is it? ;-)

> I didn't say Apache was *already* mentioned by name. I simply said we
> don't want it to be. You'll notice two things about this: first of
> all, there is no real way to express an explicit *current* wish for
> the future. It is semantically incorrect to make the modal
> future-tense, because it is a current wish, and as it is modal, you
> cannot add tense to its argument (it's an infinitive). Second, you'll
> also note that English uses something called the "close future" tense
> which is identical in conjugation to the present tense. For example:
> "I'm going to the store" doesn't mean that you are _at the moment_ en
> route. Similarly, "I'm biking the Kalhaven Trail this Sunday" doesn't
> necessarily imply that you are biking today and that "this" (ie, the
> current day) is Sunday. Many diverse languages have this, languages as
> different as French and Chinese. (In fact, in Chinese using the
> present with a temporal AdvP/SPrep/whatever is the *primary* method of
> expressing the tense of the verb)

Come back when you're less likely to rant, and more likely to talk.

Best regards,
Stu
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