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From: Denis Dupeyron <calchan@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:27:57
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead? by Ben de Groot
1 Ben,
3 Petteri was proposing an idea. He is being creative and is trying to
4 help. The only way of knowing if his idea is good is to discuss it and
5 later try it if people are interested.
7 You, on the other hand, have lately been increasingly critical (which
8 is good) but not constructively. You obviously have a lot of energy
9 but at no point have you offered your contribution. You haven't
10 offered to help the teams you've been criticizing and you haven't
11 proposed any real idea (website redesign, recruiters). Also you're
12 criticizing without knowing what is happening when the information is
13 publicly available (you're asking for a discussion on the metadata
14 idea and it was a topic last month, the devrel issue is being tackled
15 and it started before your rant).
17 On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Ben de Groot <yngwin@g.o> wrote:
18 > I am willing to follow real leaders
20 Willing to follow? Wow, that's ballsy. Now I understand why you needed
21 to tell the world about it.
23 > who inspire and lead by example,
25 There are lots of good role models to follow in Gentoo. All those who
26 work their ass off trying to make this distribution better, and use
27 the mailing lists as a tool to share ideas but not for immature
28 political rantings.
30 > You've just shown a striking lack of such leadership.
31 >
32 > No cheers this time,
34 And you've shown a striking lack of respect for somebody who's been so
35 dedicated to Gentoo for more time than you've been a developer, and
36 without whom you wouldn't even be a developer as he was your
37 recruiter. This is so wrong.
39 Credibility is among these things which take a long and hard work to
40 build up and can completely blow up at any time. Don't waste yours.
42 Denis.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead? Ben de Groot <yngwin@g.o>