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On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 08:44:03 -0500 |
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Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote: |
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> I'll admit this has been a bit of an emotional thread for me. I think |
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> my frustration comes from the fact that it seems like the whole reason |
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> that eudev exists is because people really strongly believe that |
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> systemd isn't the right way to go, and yet those same people don't |
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> seem to realize that others might feel just as strongly that eudev |
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> isn't the right way to go. |
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I started the replies with a simple +1, and that I had switched to |
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eudev... No, "Down with the evil systemd.borg" comments |
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As one of the few huge threads that I have been reading. It is you |
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that has been taking this thread more in the direction of something |
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akin to a preacher shouting we're all going to burn in hell for even |
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considering switching the default. While you were obviously more |
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emotional, Anthony was very calmly, and clearly refuting many of your |
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statements. |
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> Surely anybody suggesting switching to eudev as the default |
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> virtual/udev provider had to have realized that this would create a |
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> huge controversy. |
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BUT WHY DOES it have to be!!!!! |
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Why can't we as a group simply respond to something like this with a |
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simple +1, -1 and a few pros/cons |
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Why must it become yet another shouting match. And I'm sorry to have to |
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tell you this, but you have been leading the charge in that direction. |
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> Even if standalone udev is a dead-end (something that is speculation |
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> at this point), it isn't like the code that exists today will suddenly |
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> stop working. Worst case we just have to change the default at a |
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> later point in time. |
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> Even just kicking the can down the road has a lot of advantages: |
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> 1. Everything works fine today. |
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yes |
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> 2. We don't know for sure that it will ever stop working. |
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no, we don't |
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> 3. Deferring a decision means we don't have to wage a huge battle |
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> over which way the decision ought to go. |
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As I pointed out above, you seem to be leading the battle charge. |
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Why couldn't you have simply replied "-1 I use systemd like most other |
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distros" and "It works for me as is" and leave it at that. |
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> 4. If we do have to make a decision in the future, we'll have more |
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> information to act on. |
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put off till tomorrow what you can avoid doing today... tsk, tsk, tsk |
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IT IS A SIMPLE POLL of the possibility of switching the default VIRTUAL |
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we were suppose to be talking about/voting on!!!! |
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Sorry everyone for a little shouting of my own. |
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Brian Dolbec <dolsen> |