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From: Wyatt Epp <wyatt.epp@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC GLEP 1005: Package Tags
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 19:47:19
Message-Id: CAPCkgLm_AWN4tBkSf1h9XsZNuzg-WAdn3iO+=xAvKEG7rBphJA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC GLEP 1005: Package Tags by Ciaran McCreesh
1 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Ciaran McCreesh
2 <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com> wrote:
3 > On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:53:47 +0100
4 > yac <yac@g.o> wrote:
5 >> What I was describing is the difference between fundamental properties
6 >> of categories and tags.
7 >
8 > You are trying to redefine categories in terms of a concept that they
9 > didn't originally represent.
10
11 No one's redefining anything. You seem awfully fixated on the history
12 that forced categories to exist, which doesn't really matter in this
13 context. Regardless of any of that, people can and _do_ attempt to
14 use categories as a rudimentary method of attempting to search for
15 packages.
16
17 As you and several others have so eloquently pointed out, that's not
18 their "purpose". Concurrently, from the other direction, myself and
19 several others have noted that they're thoroughly inadequate for that
20 anyway. That's why this topic keeps coming up and why this
21 (work-in-progress) GLEP exists in the first place.
22
23 > From a package mangler perspective,
24 > categories aren't just "a label" for a package. They're fundamentally
25 > part of a package's name.
26 >
27 From that standpoint, they're even less adequate for lookup; encoding
28 metadata in names has never turned out well for anyone.
29
30 Cheers,
31 Wyatt

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC GLEP 1005: Package Tags Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com>