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From: "Robin H. Johnson" <robbat2@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on Discord
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 17:36:54
Message-Id: robbat2-20190430T173059-097892424Z@orbis-terrarum.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on Discord by "Michał Górny"
1 On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 07:24:45PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
2 > On Tue, 2019-04-30 at 19:20 +0200, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
3 > > On 4/30/19 7:18 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
4 > > > On Mon, 2019-04-29 at 22:34 +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
5 > > > > In this article on chat services used for OSS:
6 > > > >
7 > > > > https://catfox.life/2019/04/28/keeping-libre-software-accessible-to-all/
8 > > > >
9 > > > > I was surprised to see a mention of Gentoo as a project that uses "Discord
10 > > > > as an official method of communication". When I searched, I indeed found
11 > > > > https://discordapp.com/invite/gentoo. However, I'd never before heard we
12 > > > > were using Discord (and didn't find any mentions of Discord on the -dev or
13 > > > > -project mailing lists).
14 > > > >
15 > > > > Is this indeed an official venue? It's not listed on
16 > > > > https://gentoo.org/support/ (which does mention IRC).
17 > > > >
18 > > > I've contacted the author and the author refused to change it.
19 > > > The claim is that 'PR team runs it', '8 Gentoo developers have admin
20 > > > rights', 'i.e. it is sanctioned by the project itself'. I was suggested
21 > > > that if it's not official, we should close it instead.
22 > >
23 > > If that is how it is perceived I'd be in favor of outright closing it at
24 > > least
25 > >
26 > I suppose the problem boils down to 'perceived by whom'.
27 "What's official" is part of the problem.
28
29 The PR wiki page DOES list Discord as one of the official channels,
30 along with other non-libre Silos.
31 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Public_Relations#Social_silos_and_chat
32
33 A better question is: in keeping with social contract, but balancing
34 that users do want to be on different services, what material should be
35 on each silo?
36 - Announcements (copied to multiple locations)
37 - chat/forum-style support mechanisms for users on those silos
38
39 I disagree with awilfox's assertion that libre software should not
40 _use_ non-libre silos; I feel a better statement is that libre software
41 should not DEPEND on non-libre silos where possible, and offer libre
42 alternatives (IRC, despite it's problems).
43
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45 Robin Hugh Johnson
46 Gentoo Linux: Dev, Infra Lead, Foundation Treasurer
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on Discord Matthew Thode <prometheanfire@g.o>