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From: Luke-Jr <luke-jr@g.o>
To: Yuri Enshin <kot@××××××××××××××.ru>, gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] reason for dhcpcd in system profile ?
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 23:16:10
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] reason for dhcpcd in system profile ? by Yuri Enshin
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4 This seems to be opposite of my reply I just sent :)
5 I would agree that man-pages (and maybe man also, but many packages depend on
6 it without mentioning it in DEPEND) should probably not be in system (along
7 with all other documents). In fact, it would probably be a good idea to make
8 a 'man' and 'info' USE flag and only install manpages/infopages when they are
9 set.
10 Some users may *require* the ability to change console font or keyboard layout
11 to use the system (for example, if their system is weird and has a messed up
12 default font or something, or if someone has a physically QWERTY keyboard,
13 but uses Dvorak)
14 ext2/ext3 are still considered Linux native, so that may be justification for
15 their inclusion in system, if not for the fact that reiserfs is a bad idea
16 for a /boot partition... I wouldn't have any objection to their removal from
17 system, though.
18 If rsync is in system, it probably should be removed. Portage could quite
19 easilly just install it when the user tries to sync if need be.
20 hdparm, fbset may also be neccesary for system usage in some cases. I would
21 agree that 'less' does not belong in system, though.
22 To exclude network related programs from system, one would have to modify
23 baselayout to use the nonetwork initlevel by default logically, and I don't
24 think that would be too simple (and might require a 'network' USE flag).
27 On Saturday 23 August 2003 08:34 pm, Yuri Enshin wrote:
28 > Hmm... May be, extend your question?
29 > Some users know all about linux, so no reason to include man and
30 > man-pages in system.
31 > Some users never change default console font or keyboard layout, so no
32 > reason to include kbd or console-tools in system.
33 > Some users have no ext2/ext3 partiotions, so no reason to include in
34 > system e2fsprogs.
35 > Some users never use 'emerge sync' (only download snapshots), so no
36 > reason to include rsync.
37 > Some users never use less, hdparm, fbset...
38 > Some users have no network on computer at all, so no reason to include
39 > any network related programs in system.
40 > I can continue this list.
41 >
42 > The reason for dhcpcd *in* system, IMHO: support for dhcp client - part
43 > of universal, standart set of full-functional network-ready computer.
44 >
45 >
46 >
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Re: [gentoo-dev] reason for dhcpcd in system profile ? Martin Schlemmer <azarah@g.o>