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28.2.2006, 13:54:36, Stephen P. Becker wrote: |
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>> You still haven't posted posted a *single example* of webapp-config |
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>> brokeness. You, I'd say you should either back up claims about "all the ways |
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>> in which webapp-config is broken" or apologize to the concerned developers |
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>> for false claims. |
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>> Still waiting. |
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> OK, here is one. It seems that webapp-config silently assumes your |
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> webserver is apache by default. If a user uses lighttpd for example, |
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> this is totally incorrect. |
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Why don't you voice your solutions on Bug 11007? The whole underlying stuff |
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is hell broader than what webapp-config assumes or doesn't assume. |
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> Now, this doesn't cause webapp-config to fail to emerge, but the first |
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> time you emerge any webapp, you get a big nasty error about no Apache |
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> group available, which further requires the end user to dig around the |
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> webapp-config manpage to figure out the correct file to edit *just* to |
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> get a silly php script to install in the correct location. |
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The above is a direct result of purging all kind of useful predefined |
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users/groups from /etc/{passwd,group} without considering any wider |
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consequences. It has already caused circular deps and broke a couple of |
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things, included but non-limited to installing Gentoo itself (search |
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bugzilla for related bugs). Where is the whole benefit from this, I still |
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have to see. |
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webapp-config should be updated to handle such situation more gracefully, so |
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why don't you file a bug about this? Is that all you have wrt "all the ways |
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in which webapp-config is broken"? If so, that's not really much of a |
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justification of the broad claim ciaranm has made as a QA project member. |
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> And please, don't tell me this is a feature. It breaks noninteractivity |
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> for every "webapp" in the entire tree. |
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What kind of non-interactivity? What's this universal non-interactivity |
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blurb of yours and ciaranm's about? There's no such thing when it comes to |
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configuration. If you want automated "configuration", then please use |
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Windows and stop moaning. If you don't want to read manpages or at least |
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--help, then please use Windows as well. If you want to use non-default |
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setup, then you need to change default values, that's what common sense |
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dictates at least. And don't use the (non)-interactivity magical formular in |
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a context where it has zero sense. |
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Best regards, |
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Jakub Moc |
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mailto:jakub@g.o |
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