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From: Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:38:24
Message-Id: 5336CB8C.7070609@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev by "Anthony G. Basile"
1 On 29/03/14 15:24, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
2 > On 03/29/2014 09:23 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
3 >> On 03/29/2014 08:58 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
4 >>> On 29/03/14 14:30, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
5 >>>> On 03/28/2014 07:53 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
6 >>>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
7 >>>>> <zerochaos@g.o> wrote:
8 >>>>>> All in all, this isn't a bad idea on the surface, but the first
9 >>>>>> arguement shows immediately when this is scaled up. How many other
10 >>>>>> packages have multiple libs with different sonames? Off hand, I can
11 >>>>>> think of poplar, but I'm sure there must be more. Is it really
12 >>>>>> scalable, desirable, or sane, to break each package on the system
13 >>>>>> into
14 >>>>>> multiple different virtuals like this?
15 >>>>> Clever idea, actually, though I'd be interested in whether anybody
16 >>>>> else can think of any unintended consequences.
17 >>>>>
18 >>>> My objection to what happened with the introduction of these virtuals
19 >>>> was that they directly affected eudev and yet the eudev team was not
20 >>>> consulted.
21 >>> eudev developer was contacted before any real impact on tree was
22 >>> made to
23 >>> make an ebuild-only change to build multilib libgudev like udev and
24 >>> systemd
25 >>> does
26 >>> at which point any objections could have been raised, instead, like
27 >>> expected, the version of eudev was provided to move forward, and we did
28 >>>
29 >>> so I don't agree with your assesment of not being consulted, when
30 >>> you were
31 >>>
32 >> Not before the decision was made to go ahead with the change.
33 >> Consulting means input before the decision.
34 >>
35 > Following up on this, do you have any objection to me co-maintianing
36 > those virtuals?
37 >
38
39 With the inappropiate feedback I got from yesterday from you in
40 #gentoo-dev, I'm not sure you are the best fit
41 for maintaining any of these.
42
43 However, I suppose both of eudev@g.o and systemd@g.o
44 should still be in metadata.xml of
45 the virtuals as co-maintainers.
46
47 But it doesn't mean you get to do dramatical changes to them without
48 first discussing it with the main providers
49 maintainers, that is, sys-fs/udev, and WilliamH and me. Dramatical
50 changes, such as unannouncedly reverting
51 others changes, masking them, etc.
52
53 I shouldn't even be needing to tell any of this, as common sense should
54 prevail, but lately it has been lost,
55 so covering basis. Don't take insult of it.
56
57 +1 for adding systemd and eudev to metadata.xml

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Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev "Anthony G. Basile" <blueness@g.o>