Re: [gentoo-dev] reason for dhcpcd in system profile ?

[Kevyn Shortell]

On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 00:22, Stewart Honsberger wrote:

>
> In Canada, DSL accounts for atleast half, perhaps even greater number of
> all broadband subscribers.

I'd have to take a guess that Comcast in California has more DHCP cable
customers than Canada has broadband customers. DSL has not been rolled
out enmass in such large numbers in the United States regardless of what
the phone companies would like people to think. There are still way too
many places where it's impossible to get DSL, and will remain so for
years. And I'm not talking about out in the sticks, but litterally 25
miles from the heart of Silicon Valley...It's not important what you
have, vs what I have, but what would benefit our users the most. 

>
> During the install process I would expect to have dhcpcd and pppoe
> support included. We weren't talking about the install process, we were
> talking about the base system.

I had meant to clarify that more, but the same holds true. It just makes
basic sense to have what is required to get on ANY network as part of
the base system. Do we want to force people to have to emerge it so they
can use thier laptop somewhere besides at home if they have a PPPoE
connection? 

>
> As for what it 'hurts', nothing, per se. The only effects I was
> referring to is runaway packages in the base system profile which can
> cause problems down the road.

I agree that pruning the base system is probably a good idea, but why
look at basic network components that atleast half of our users require
in order to get their machine on the net?

>
> For example, it's better to have as minimal a base system as possible to
> minimize support and allow flexibility. Perl 5 in the base system is a
> potential issue. It's rather large, and there are a significant number
> of users who have no use for it. Its inclusion should likely be
> investigated moreso than that of dhcpcd.

Yes, I would hope perl5 would be looked at more strongly than dhcpcd or
pppoe for removal from the base system =)

> FWIW, I don't feel terribly strongly one way or another with regards to
> dhcpcd.

For me it's a basic networking component, I don't feel either should
ever be considered for removal. 

again, my .02 cents worth...

Kevyn