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On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 19:30 +0100, Marc Schiffbauer wrote: |
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> * Olivier Crête schrieb am 04.01.12 um 18:40 Uhr: |
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> > On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 15:54 +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: |
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> > > On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 16:51:12 +0100 |
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> > > Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > > /bin/systemctl |
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> > > > libdbus-1.so.3 => /usr/lib64/libdbus-1.so.3 |
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> > > Here is a prime example of why "vertical integration" should really be |
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> > > called "a horrible mess of tight coupling"... |
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> > You clearly have failed to realize that d-bus is a now the bus for |
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> > system messaging and is as much part of the system as syslog or bash. |
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> > Probably even more so, for example, in Fedora 17, you'll be able to boot |
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> > without syslog or bash, but you need d-bus. |
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> If this was true, we will soon have problems with linux systems that |
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> windows had in 1995. |
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> IMO a system should *always* be bootable without that "high level" |
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> stuff. And by bootable I mean that you can get a root prompt at |
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> least. |
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d-bus is not high-level stuff... For example, you can't use bluetooth |
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without d-bus. Even Android has it.. |
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That said, in the new systemd world, bash is.. Since it's only a "UI" |
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tools (just like gnome-shell for example). Since you don't need it to |
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boot. |
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Olivier Crête |
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tester@g.o |
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Gentoo Developer |