Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles

[Aaron Bauman]

Please provide substantial evidence for your claims.  Furthermore, a profile of your choice would be honorable.

On July 19, 2018 9:58:25 PM EDT, Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:
>On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:42 PM Andrew Savchenko <bircoph@g.o>
>wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 16:51:17 -0500 Ben Kohler wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I'd like to propose adding USE=udev to our linux profiles (in
>> > profiles/default/linux/make.defaults probably).  This flag is
>already
>> > enabled on desktop profiles but it also affects quite a few
>packages
>> > used on non-desktop linux systems.
>> >
>>
>> I have server setups with udev disabled for most packages. So udev
>> enabled by default will create maintenance problems. While I'm
>> perfectly fine with udev enabled by default on desktops, it should
>> not be forced on minimalistic setups like servers or containers.
>
>80% of the servers on the planet are running a linux distro, and 99%
>of those are probably running udev.  Gentoo is probably the only
>distro where making udev the (trivially disabled) default is even
>remotely controversial.
>
>Maybe we need some kind of ultra-minimal profile for people who really
>don't want anything installed if they didn't put it there.  It seems
>odd to make that sort of configuration our "base" as it really isn't a
>normal configuration by any standard.
>
>There is nothing wrong with people who want to start with a minimal
>profile.  I just don't think it makes a lot of sense to have that as a
>default starting point.  There is no reason that "base" needs to be a
>subset of all the other profiles.
>
>If for some reason we don't go with this, perhaps it would at least
>make sense to have a server profile that enables it by default and
>make base something that normal users are discouraged from using.
>
>--
>Rich

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